Pynchon Virgins

[rich]

I used to be enthralled with making all the connections Pynchon was making,
learning about the economies, the histories, the perversities, etc. but
after awhile it was the sheer beauty of his sentences and language. that's
why i didnt really like Vineland. he retunred to form in M&D which had both
the former and alot of the latter. there was old man melancholy but the two
characters personalities played to both his strengths. who hasnt a bit of
themselves in both mason and dixon; i sure did. against the day had too
much of the former and hardly any of the latter, all that running around
seemed pointless. and i dont care for the romantic nature of his views of
revolutionary anarchism; IV was bland tripe, null on former and latter. but
who cares since in future; folks'll remember don draper or tony soprano
(god bless his smutty soul)


On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 12:27 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:

> Well put. I'm one of the ones who likes COL49, though V. was my gateway.
>
> Laura
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eburns at gmail.com
> Sent: Jun 22, 2013 11:35 AM
> To: malignd at aol.com, owner-pynchon-l at waste.org, pynchon-l at waste.org
> Subject: Re: Pynchon Virgins
>
> ************I think Lot 49 is the starter drug for most; it's like the
> sorting demon, one either loves it or hates it. If one hates it, one won't
> like the rest of the oeuvre much either.
>
> GR is still the zenith for me though; V. is liftoff, M&D marks
> brennschluss and then it's downhill from there, artillery of an entirely
> different caliber and calibration.
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
> ------------------------------
> *From: * malignd at aol.com
> *Sender: * owner-pynchon-l at waste.org
> *Date: *Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:06:54 -0400 (EDT)
> *To: *<pynchon-l at waste.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Pynchon Virgins
>
> Ah.  For the rest, I completely agree with you.  And I think GR is much
> better than V.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
> Cc: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 5:04 pm
> Subject: Re: Pynchon Virgins
>
>  You missed my correction (earlier today) saying I meant zenith, not
> nadir.
>
> On Friday, June 21, 2013, wrote:
>
>> You think GR and V are his worst books?  Really?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> To: Joseph S. Barrera III <joe at barrera.org>
>> Cc: P-list <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Fri, Jun 21, 2013 2:12 am
>> Subject: Re: Pynchon Virgins
>>
>>  No.
>> GR &  V.
>>
>> On Thursday, June 20, 2013, Joseph S. Barrera III wrote:
>>
>>> On 6/20/2013 7:49 PM, David Morris wrote:
>>>
>>> > I'm  snob who considers them his nadir.
>>>
>>> "Them" refers to Lot 49 and Vineland?
>>>
>>>     ****
>
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