911 Prewarning

[rich]

I worked in the one of the towers on the 90-something floor in the
early 90's before the bombing. i hated working in that building. you
could feel the building swaying that high up. it had all the charm of
yeah, inside a filing cabinet, soviet gray and bland. the elevators
made your stomach jump, not good coming back from lunch.

nice imagery Laura

rich

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:08 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> The original Twin Towers design was widely panned by architectural critics.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:04 AM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> As the towers were going up, they looked like two giant file cabinets,
>> plunked down in the middle of what had been a delicate, filagreed skyline.
>> But I suppose they were really some sort of homoerotic image.  Maybe that's
>> what ticked al Qaeda off.  Personally, I find the new, heterosexual fuck-you
>> phallus they're constructing obscene.  "Look how long and hard we are now!
>> Don't fuck with the new viagrified trade center, evil terrorists!"  For a
>> long while, it looked like they weren't going to add the foreskin.  But now
>> it's in just about complete. Jews circumcize in infancy.  Muslims wait 7-10
>> years.  Is it a dare?
>>
>> Laura
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bandwraith at aol.com
>> Sent: Feb 28, 2013 10:14 PM
>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>> Subject: Re: 911 Prewarning
>>
>> I witnessed the towers just after the first plane hit. All the conspiracy
>> theories are rubbish- mostly because they detract from the real issue, the
>> symbolic power of their destruction. Al Queda was hip to this as early as
>> 1993- when the morons tried to bring one of them down with a garage bomb
>> planted in a rented vehicle, after which they then tried to recoup the
>> deposit on! The only people stupider than Al Queda were the various security
>> agencies charged with protecting us from them.
>>
>> Pynchon's most specific reference to the symbolic power of the World Trade
>> Center occurs in Chapter 11 (as a self-signifier of moral bankruptcy) of
>> M&D- the twin gallows, shimmering on the horizon of St. Helena, the two
>> terms- capitalism and slavery- so essential for the western enterprise.
>> Reading it post-911 is enough to cause goose bumps- prescient. And don't
>> forget that steady wind blowing in (back) from the coast.  So stop changing
>> the subject. Al Queda was well aware of the location of our "crotch" and it
>> took them two kicks, but they finally caught us right in the balls. If there
>> was a conspiracy it was between those flea bitten fanatic scumbags and our
>> own stupidity.
>>
>> Since 911, any critique of the capitalist enterprise has been forced to
>> walk gingerly around the issue of sympathy for the devil. But coincidence
>> works in strange ways, and the demonic, despite its rabid hatred, is
>> sometimes twisted into the agency of The Good- much to its own chargrin.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>
>> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Thu, Feb 28, 2013 8:34 pm
>> Subject: Re: 911 Prewarning
>>
>>
>> How about discussing the issue in relation to Pynchon's work?
>>
>> Not that he knows the answers re 9/11, but neither do we, so ...
>>
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>> http://against-the-day.pynchonwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Against_the_Day_and_September_11
>>
>> 9/11 in Against the Day
>> On roughly pages 138-155 of Against the Day, the Lovecraftian narrative
>> about a mysterious power dug up from the ice bears numerous parallels to the
>> events of 9/11:
>> Page 145: "even reaching the depot would prove an Odyssey. For the streets
>> were in mad disorder"
>> Page 148: "the bad dream I still try to wake from, the great city brought
>> to sorrow and ruin"
>> Page 151: "they'd been warned, repeatedly, about just such a possiblity.
>> The city more and more vertical, the population growing in density, all
>> hostages to just sich an incursion."
>> Page 151: "a story taken so for granted that its coming true was the last
>> thing anybody expected"
>>
>> Against the Day & the Controlled Demolition Hypothesis
>>
>> It has been suggested that the following excerpts might allude to the
>> Controlled demolition hypothesis for the collapse of the WTC:
>> Page 85: "some of these explosions, the more deadly of them, in fact, were
>> really set off to begin with not by Anarchists but by the owners
>> themselves."
>> Page 175: "Only slowly would it occur to his ultra-keen detective's
>> reasoning that these bombs could have been set by anybody, including those
>> who would clearly benefit if "Anarchists", however loosely defined, could be
>> blamed for it."
>> (...)
>>
>> 9/11 and Pynchon's other works
>>
>> Gravity's Rainbow
>> The poem/song that appears on the final page of the book contains an image
>> that takes on new meaning post-9/11:
>> There is a Hand to turn the time, Though thy Glass today be run. Till the
>> Light that hath brought the Towers low Find the last poor Pret'rite one...
>> Till the Riders sleep in ev'ry road, All through our crippl'd Zone. With a
>> face on ev'ry mountainside, And a Soul in ev'ry stone... (...)
>>
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