Rebecca Solnit on San Francisco

[Ian Livingston]

There you have the guts of David's and my difference. The money, of course,
will win. SF will be trashed, but the result will not be a lightening of
the carbon footprint, but an increase, as more businesses and people pile
into the small tip of the peninsula and continue to spill over into the
surrounding area, each selfish one demanding the most historic place he can
buy and gentrify. It's a nasty business. The world loses another fine city,
and gains another overcrowded dormitory.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Robert Mahnke <rpmahnke at gmail.com> wrote:

> Geek-driven gentrification threatens San Francisco's bohemian appeal:
>
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/mar/05/san-francisco-geek-gentrification-threatens
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:15 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The failings of Pruitt Igoe and Modernism's anti-urbanism embodied by Le
> > Corbusier's Model city (
> >
> http://www.google.com/search?q=le+corbusier+model+city&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=he01UYKzHebR2QXP_YCQBA&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=625
> > ) have been well known for a long time.  Density ain't its root problem.
> > The destruction of urban space and fabric in favor of free-standing
> towers
> > surrounded by a void are.  Density in the city would Ideally look more
> like
> > the Paris Le Corbusier sought to replace.
> >
> http://www.earth-photography.com/Countries/France/ChampsElysees_subgallery/France_Paris_ChampsElysees.html
> >
> >
> > On Monday, March 4, 2013, Prashant Kumar wrote:
> >>
> >> Take this as the timid question it is, David (M.), but how does one
> >> achieve high density urban areas without creating Pruitt Igoe like
> >> hellholes?
> >>
> >> In Sydney we have a community housing building modelled after Le
> >> Corbusier, but instead of parks, car parks. The Northcott building
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://m.theaustralian.com.au/arts/public-housing-private-hell/story-e6frg8n6-1111112988132
> >>
> >>
> >> Needless to say it became a concrete slab of despair and social
> >> distinction. (I do agree with your larger point; I think Sydney for
> example
> >> would be much the poorer without the contrast high density allows.
> Where I
> >> was born in New Zealand has become a horrible stretch of motorways and
> mall
> >> complexes, the kind with attached buildings and surrounded by a sea of
> car
> >> parks.)
> >>
> >> P.
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, March 5, 2013, David Morris wrote:
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> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=seattle+public+library+rem+koolhaas&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=wW41UcDxDYPW2gXdz4HYCg&sqi=2&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=673
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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