GR translation: except that the man was never really alive

[alice wellintown]

And Freud, with that accent... and all that shit in Norman O. Brown
only makes matters muddier.

On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Al Haidar <attarhaidar at gmail.com> wrote:
> I take this as Slothrop writing off or entertaining the idea of Jamf as
> merely a figment of his imagination--an attractive alternative to the truth?
> Related to this (much) later mention of Jamf on p738?  Even though Jamf is
> ostensibly a physically real entity, paranoia is just as much about
> suspicion of the real as it is belief in the unreal.
>
> "'There never was a Dr. Jamf,' opines world-renowned analyst Mickey
> Wuxtry-Wuxtry--'Jamf was only a fiction'"
>
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2013 at 5:51 AM, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>> OR -  it could mean something more along the lines of  Jamf was never
>> really "alive"  in an animated sense.  He may have walked and talked and
>> breathed,  but he was never a really feeling and animated human being.   He
>> was more like an unfeeling robot going through life doing his horrible
>> experiments   - not really functioning as a whole and on-going human being.
>>
>> "The man was never really alive so how can he be really -  " (dead?).
>>
>> But if Slothrop has no memory of him,  then I'm not sure the above makes a
>> lot of sense -  yours (David) might be better.
>>
>> Bekah
>>
>>
>> On Mar 9, 2013, at 9:00 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Yes.  He has no memory that he can recall of Jamf.
>> >
>> > On Saturday, March 9, 2013, Mike Jing wrote:
>> > P264.24-37  “That stuff. Forget it. It’s not even our line. You ever try
>> > to develop a polymer when there’s nothing but indole people around? With our
>> > giant parent to the north sending in ultimatums every day? Imipolex G is the
>> > company albatross, Yank. They have vice-presidents whose only job is to
>> > observe the ritual of going out every Sunday to spit on old Jamf’s grave.
>> > You haven’t spent much time with the indole crowd. They’re very elitist.
>> > They see themselves at the end of a long European dialectic, generations of
>> > blighted grain, ergotism, witches on broomsticks, community orgies, cantons
>> > lost up there in folds of mountain that haven’t known an unhallucinated day
>> > in the last 500 years—keepers of a tradition, aristocrats—”
>> > “Wait a minute. . . .”Jamf dead? “You say Jamf’s grave, now?” It ought
>> > to be making more of a difference to him, except that the man was never
>> > really alive so how can he be really—
>> >
>> > By "the man was never really alive", I assume Slothrop means he has
>> > never known Jamf in person, is that correct?
>> >
>>
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