GR translation: dialectics, matrices, archetypes all need to connect
Ian Livingston
igrlivingston at gmail.com
Mon Mar 11 09:33:57 CDT 2013
Another great pun.
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 7:03 AM, Bekah <bekah0176 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I think both uses work in conjunction - as abstractions of worldly
> phenomenon and reproduced in general ideas and or charts, as well as in
> their personal paths crossing and recrossing. Pynchon seems to be taking
> that abstraction and pulling it down - or taking the personal and pushing
> it up into the realm of the matrix/grid/dialectic.
>
> Bekah
>
> On Mar 11, 2013, at 5:55 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Matrices are not always square. I see it as all the personal paths
> crossing over each other at the Odeon.
> >
> > On Monday, March 11, 2013, Monte Davis wrote:
> > Dialectics, matrices, archetypes: organizing schemes, systems,
> principles abstracted from the world, elaborated by those sitting over
> their notebooks at the Odeon. I read “matrices” as tables with rows and
> columns, into which everything must fit.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: owner-pynchon-l at waste.org [mailto:owner-pynchon-l at waste.org] On
> Behalf Of Mike Jing
> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 1:11 AM
> > To: Pynchon Mailing List
> > Subject: GR translation: dialectics, matrices, archetypes all need to
> connect
> >
> >
> >
> > P266.17-27 He finds that he has drifted as far as the Odeon, one of
> the great world cafes, whose specialty is not listed anywhere—indeed has
> never been pinned down. Lenin, Trotsky, James Joyce, Dr. Einstein all sat
> out at these tables. Whatever it was they all had in common: whatever
> they’d come to this vantage to score . . . perhaps it had to do with the
> people somehow, with pedestrian mortality, restless crisscrossing of needs
> or desperations in one fateful piece of street. . . dialectics, matrices,
> archetypes all need to connect, once in a while, back to some of that
> proletarian blood, to body odors and senseless screaming across a table, to
> cheating and last hopes, or else all is dusty Dracularity, the West’s
> ancient curse. . . .
> >
> > What does "matrices" mean here? I am only familiar with the word in the
> mathematical sense.
> >
>
>
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