Pynchon's vaunted list-making
Andreis Passarinho
eastcocker at gmail.com
Fri May 3 12:12:54 CDT 2013
beside the encyclopedic aspect of listing, which I agree is pretty evident,
there`s also the fact that most sorts of magic rituals (As far as I know,
and that`s not that far) include lists of names of dead ancestors or
mythical predecessors that are `invoked` even if the one invoking
recognizes their names or not.
(in some jewish mystic writings, for example, there are these really
long-ass listing of all the seventy names in God`s Heart. seventy names! if
you actually believe those names are (or are `in`) god`s heart, the
cumulative aspect takes on a whole other angle.
i think theres something to that effect happening in GR, towards the end.
the events grouped paranoically and encyclopedically to relate to vast,
perverse power systems which we cannot fundamentally know about, and yet
have to try to make sense of.
(hopefully at least 30% of this makes sense)
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andreisp
On Thu, May 2, 2013 at 12:53 PM, <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
> A-and of course the books of whales in Moby Dick (and clam chowders, etc)
> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
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> *From: * Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
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> *ReplyTo: * Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
> *Subject: *Re: Pynchon's vaunted list-making
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> I meant P's fiction, but the history is interesting as we so often are.
>
> I meant THE fiction of P because I wondered if Farina's incriedible list
> in his
> novel might have started him on his. If none in V.
>
> *From:* Prashant Kumar <siva.prashant.kumar at gmail.com>
> *To:* Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>; pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 2, 2013 12:30 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Pynchon's vaunted list-making
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> Wait, Mark: do you mean fiction generally or P's fiction?
>
> P.
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> On 2 May 2013 00:04, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> When did that start in the fiction? I cannot easily remember any in V.
> (without
> checking) but I ask because there is an extensive one early in Been Down
> So Long It Looks Like
> Up to Me, published after V., of course, but surely read by Pynchon before
> it and Crying of Lot
> 49 were published in 1966?
> There is a sort of list in Lot 49, with poignant detritus stuff in Mucho
> Maas' cars.......another?
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