NP really, but maybe. But if I am right

[alice wellintown]

It's not possible to believe that P robbed Farina of style. Farina never
had the chance to develop, let alone develop a style. That P and F worked
on and with a lot of the same material, as countless others who were
scribbling campus novels and trying to find a new beat voice even as they
tied in the tendrils of tradition they hardly new or understood, even as
they yearned to get out as wondering scholars, out on the road, west young
man, to the sea, where the might listen to what Whitman sang about, where,
like Oedipa, the might see America, the one that ee Cummings wrote about,
the one that  WAC Williams, in Paterson, the one that Howl describes.
Farina did not live long enough to have a style. Sad, but true.

On Wednesday, May 8, 2013, David Morris wrote:

> It's hard to believe Pynchon ever seriously wanted to be an engineer.
>  Fall back option?
>
> On Wednesday, May 8, 2013, wrote:
>
>>  OK, have your fun. You guys caught me in my cups. I guess I shouldn't
>> mix Gnossos and Trebbiano. But despite his chauvanism and decidedly
>> politically incorrect approach to campus life, I get a kick out of Gnossos,
>> and BDSL brings to my mind some things to consider. First of all, it was a
>> shrewd move of Pynchon to dedicate GR to Farina. It saved him the trouble
>> of answering for all his theft- and I mean low and highway robbery- of
>> Farina's style, technique and thematic angles- everything from the frat
>> rush dinner to the use of actual mathematical equations in the text, to
>> name but a few.
>>
>> Which, secondly, brings to mind another thing- when exactly did Pynchon
>> switch from engineering to literature at Cornell? That had to be something
>> which he discussed with Farina, who apparently made a similar move. (I'm
>> not sure if Farina actually switched or just dropped out.) The whole
>> tension between Science and the Humanities is more or less manifested in
>> Gnossos. Imagine, for example, if Gnossos had been a Lit major- wouldn't
>> that have been exciting? His math/science skill, yet familiarity with
>> lit, gives him a certain credibility as a critic of the status quo that
>> would not be the case if he were just another English major, or, is that
>> wrong?
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Prashant Kumar <siva.prashant.kumar at gmail.com>
>> To: bandwraith <bandwraith at aol.com>; pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Tue, May 7, 2013 11:4,
>> Subject: Re: NP really, but maybe. But if I am right
>>
>>  My favorite is the last paragraph. Gotta get me some Trebbiano...well,
>> gotta get me a job.
>>
>>  P.
>>
>> On 8 May 2013 09:09, <bandwraith at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yea. I'm not sure what I was thinking. It seemed to make sense at the
>>> time.
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
>>> To: pynchon-l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> Sent: Tue, May 7, 2013 5:22 pm
>>> Subject: Re: NP really, but maybe. But if I am right
>>>
>>>  This is quite a sentence -- apologizing for sounding pompous, then
>>> roaring off on a roll of pomposity.
>>>
>>>  [Sorry if I'm sounding pompous- too much Trebbiano, and the rest of the Mediterranean
>>> diet, sans the fish, chicken and cheese, for me, of course, but even
>>> with that, it really is good for you! I encourage all P--listers to make a
>>> move in that direction] And given its Greeky-ness, I'd have to say:
>>> Mentor, or better, Mentor/Athena.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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