Unscrewing the navel allusion
Ben Canard
bencanard2000 at gmail.com
Sat May 11 14:21:09 CDT 2013
https://www.pynchon.net/owap/article/view/27/59 Sorry I forgot the link.
On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 3:19 PM, Ben Canard <bencanard2000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 1962 is an error the typescript was turned in June of 1961, as best as can
> be determined. Here's an article about a memo in which the writer discusses
> accepting it.
>
>
> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Jeff Sunbury <jsunbury at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I love that story. The mental image conjures a cartoon by Don Martin (w/
>> MAD magazine 1956-1988) in which a man pulls an annoying hair from his
>> shoulder with the sound effect "POINK" and his arm drops off.
>>
>> inre the publication of V. - I re-read V. in March this year and came
>> across a 2009 grad student thesis: (RE)VISIONS OF GENOCIDE:NARRATIVES OF
>> GENOCIDE IN THOMAS PYNCHON’S V. AND GRAVITY’S <http://repository.library.georgetown.edu/bitstream/handle/10822/553016/joycePeytonMeigs.pdf?sequence=1>
>> RAINBOW<http://repository.library.georgetown.edu/bitstream/handle/10822/553016/joycePeytonMeigs.pdf?sequence=1> that
>> refers to an April 1962 typescript draft of V. in letters between Pynchon
>> and his Lippincott editor, Corlies 'Corky' Smith, also, the ref. 'Smith,
>> Shawn. Pynchon and History: Metahistorical Rhetoric and Postmodern
>> Narrative Form in the Novels of Thomas Pynchon. New York: Routledge, 2005.
>> I'm new to this P-list so this may be old news.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 11, 2013 at 9:45 AM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It is 1958. "Candida was delighted by [Robert] Gottleib's [S & S editor]
>>> enthusiasm for the Catch--18 manuscript.[[only 75 pages]. Finally,
>>> someone got it! "Ii thought my navel would unscrew and my ass would fall
>>> off, " she often said to describe her happiness
>>> when negotiations went well with an editor." She had also received a
>>> positive response from Tom Ginsberg at Viking.
>>>
>>> S & S, we know, did publish Catch-22 and Ginsberg, a decade later,
>>> Gravity's Rainbow.
>>>
>>> I think it is clear from the stuff about Candida from this bio that
>>> Pynchon woudda probably read Catch-18 while he was writing
>>> V. as, at least I hinted at,,\ I say proudly full of myself, when
>>> I think I found some echoes of Heller in the early parts of V....
>>> Candida sent it, gave it, to about everybody.
>>>
>>> Catch--22 was not published until October 1961, approximately 6--9
>>> months before V. would have been set to be published by
>>> Lippincott in early 1963. (We know part of V. was published in 1961, but
>>> I do not know when V., finished, was offered to
>>> publishers, if it was...(that is, unless CD had made a deal early with
>>> Lippincott based on a major part of it.)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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