Re: BEER: Ch. 8—SCrying

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"Here--not here"---Bailey writes...the Buddhist " joke" about is and isn't....other such...

P's way of indicating the irreality of our mediated world?

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On Nov 9, 2013, at 8:23 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:

> I love that Barbie Tarot page, Robin. Thanks for the find. The kind of
> pre-Web 1.0 site it's so hard to find these days and which I get
> misty-eyed for, and for which I am allowed some concession in BE even
> though I don't think Pynchon is necessarily nostalgic about the web
> from that era (it contained the poison from the get-go).
> 
> I mean, look at that lurid background colour. The really wide
> pagination. The sheer weirdness of the subject and the amount of
> effort that's gone into it, and the overall seclusion from the rest of
> the web (no ads etc). Most of all, the way the writing isn't infected
> with the kind of samespeak that emerges when you spend too much time
> on any kind of social media.
> 
> If the P-list was created from scratch today, what would it look like?
> It'd probably be a Facebook page. There would be ads and we would all
> have pix of ourselves (a few not actual portraits), we would have to
> sign up using email addresses that now require a working mobile phone
> number to sign up for (there are few that don't) and the layout of the
> site would look 95% identical to every other similar page. If we
> avoided Facebook it would be some other site using one of a handful of
> templates, wordpress maybe, and it would, again, look like everything
> else.
> 
> In other news: Maxi's toilet-omancy might be echoed later when she is
> hunting for Felix and goes on a massive floor-by-floor sweep of the
> nightclub, a scene which in a cryptic way is reminiscent of Slothrop's
> journey past the S-bend. For some reason all of the loos she passes
> cause Maxi to enter her own moment of nostalgia in a club dedicated to
> nostalgia, and she temporarily leaves the timespace she's in to
> venture into memory. When she returns, for some reason, she's by a
> dancefloor where she finds her target. It's an oddly structured few
> pages though to me it does capture the here-not here experience of
> moving through the kind of space she's in.
> 
> Plus the scene includes the novel's second reference to What A Fool
> Believes, which is one of my favourite songs. I'm more and more
> interested to hear a Tarot-inflected reading of BE...
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Robin Landseadel
> <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Here is the missing "Fool" card from the Barbie Tarot, inexplicably missing
>> from the link provided previously:
>> 
>> http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/5f/50/78/5f5078a1fc25f27d6d4bddbbf5edb279.jpg
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