BE Spoiler (if that's possible now)

[Fiona Shnapple]

Published essays on Mondaugan, the revisions and so on, should be part
of this discussion. What about young P's description of Sarah....?

On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Even if you point out other places, Robin, I want to second Morris's perceptions about the beginning of that chapter....I felt the tone shift---I tried to think of that tone elsewhere in his fiction as well and could not easily ( I would not have had the gumption to declare it unique as Morris
> Did cause I knew some would dispute).....
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> But that tone on that subject does strike one stron fly here, yes?   Naked, no ironies. Death.
> Besides what I have just written about it, it reminded me of what TRP has not taken on straight---
> Like the War which almost ended these United States......
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> He took on 9/11 as a massive death as it was felt by New Yorkers, in his observations.
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
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>> There's a lot of passages in the novel where the narrator's voice becomes very direct and rather pointed as regards his objects of attention and his opinions as regards such.
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>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:18 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
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>>> Remember when it was being said after 9/11 that "irony was dead"....well, for most of BE Pynchon is showing
>>> how it is never dead, isn't he?........here???
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:44 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I admit to not yet having finished BE, but I'm getting closer by bits every day.  So when today I got to Chapter 30...
>>>
>>> SPOILER ALERT!
>>>
>>>
>>> ... I was kind of shocked by the sharp change of tone.  The first three paragraphs read like Pynchon directly himself without character mediation observing the post 9-11 history dynamic as a New Yorker, and the larger realm.  Honest and straightforward without sarcasm or judgement, except for the reference to the Newspaper of Record.  These three paragraph are unique in Pynchon's fiction, as far as I can see.
>>>
>>> David Morris
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