Re: BEER ch 88,89—Beyond Good and Evil

Fiona Shnapple fionashnapple at gmail.com
Thu Nov 21 04:26:10 CST 2013


http://lareviewofbooks.org/essay/the-lint-of-the-material

On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Fiona Shnapple <fionashnapple at gmail.com> wrote:
> http://themodernword.com/pynchon/paper_gibbs.html
>
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 8:22 AM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Damn, that Sloth essay is mandatory re-reading in the reflected light
>> of BE. Wish I'd gone back to it sooner.
>>
>> (And just listened to the Slate podcast several have linked to here -
>> it's worth it! I disagree with much of what's said but it's passionate
>> and playful and articulates many of the objections to the novel in a
>> way that I found illuminating, as someone who likes it)
>>
>> Re: Johnny Mnemonic, I think it was Mr Kohut who noted William
>> Gibson's Twitter response to hearing about the film's mention (along
>> the lines of "really?!?")
>>
>> Is Felix's last name a reference to Oingo Boingo? I only know the band
>> by name but they're mentioned in the same breath as Spike Jones and
>> Frank Zappa: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oingo_Boingo
>>
>> Also Boing Boing is a very popular geek culture website that has been
>> around for ~25 years (began as an offline zine I think). Very pop
>> technology stuff.
>>
>> Drawing a line to P's time at Boeing? Maybe too much.
>>
>> Felix is Latin for happy or lucky. Happy Boeing? Oh. Maybe he is the
>> ghost of a young P who once thought he could work for a tech company
>> and pretend that the technology itself was neutral...
>>
>> Back to that podcast - the speaker who hated the novel states at the
>> start that she didn't get into BE's overt anti-technology theme, which
>> left me thinking "what anti-technology theme?" Did anyone else get
>> that from the novel? P's work doesn't suggest that technology is
>> neutral, but as the Sloth essay indicates neither is his knee
>> a-jerking in a particular technology's direction.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Michael Bailey
>> <michael.lee.bailey at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Remember all those funky stamps in CoL49? Made me think of tax stamps,
>>>> > for stock trades. Like all those old "Pynchon & Co." tax stamps.
>>>
>>> Here're some (but who's Raymond?)
>>> http://1898revenues.blogspot.com/2012/07/new-york-stock-brokers-raymond-pynchon.html?m=1
>>>
>>>>Internet trades are not taxed per transaction. They really, really should
>>>> be, you know.
>>>
>>> - easy to administer, collect, even if they dampened trading a bit they
>>> probably could replace all other taxation. Hard to bell that cat, though!
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