The Gathering Payback

[Joseph Tracy]

The mountain of collective guilt is real, but we is a difficult word- a construction of meaning  which can be all inclusive or quite narrow. Which we?  

As concerns this reference to shared consciousness , shared responsibility and  karmic payback , doesn't  it also imply the possibility of karmic liberation and a positive feedback. If we reap what we sow, what might we sow? So many of the world's inspirational figures seem to see  a common  connective ground that dissolves the agonistic mindset and gently teaches ways to experience a connected peace.  But it always calls for breaking habits that bind us to delusion. It is in that place of struggle with habits of thought and action that I feel I share most common ground as a we.  But mostly I flail, I want to be brave but avoid discomfort and death. Gandhi I'm not.   

My goal in talking about the truther questions is not to imagine a more perfect them to blame, but to recognize accurately both the specifics and general patterns of that event to enough of a degree that some political, psychological and imaginary accuracy is possible even if it includes unanswered questions.  There are so many things we will never know about so many things. I accept that. 


On Nov 16, 2013, at 7:02 PM, David Morris wrote:

> p.340
> "terrible black ash billowing [...] that was the moment [...] When everything was revealed [...] a rush of blackness and death. Showing us what we've become, what we've been all the time. [...] living on borrowed time". [...] and meantime the only help we get from the media is boo hoo the innocent dead.  Boo fucking hoo. You know what? All the dead are innocent. There's no uninnocent dead."
> [...]
> "it's a koan."
> 
> This koan mean its opposite.  None of our dead are innocent. We all are due a payback. We all share a mountain of collective guilt.
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