I've gotcher Gabriel Ice right here:

[Fiona Shnapple]

Robin,

That Anti Oedipus stuff you mentioned, well, I hope you, or someone, will
bring that into this reading. I've read Stefan Mattessich's wonderful essay
on Lot49, and I still don't quite get it, how it works in the art of
Pynchon, let alone, in Varo. This is my fault not Stephan's, certainly not
Pynchon's or Varo's, maybe as you say, it is the un-readable double visions
of those brilliant men, and toss in Foucault for good measure, maybe....and
maybe I get them and P and Varo, but don't get how the fit together.

But I'm a decent reader of fiction, so, and I can get P when he is
satirizing people I know, the times I live in, have lived in, still live
in. There is nothing warped about my reading of P's satire of Maxine and
her family history.

She turns. She's no Lefty like her Pop. And he too is subjected to satire.
It's not the same, of course, as the attack on the golden fangs of Wall
Street and Ice, but it is there. Why call it a misreading of satire?

On Sunday, October 6, 2013, Robin Landseadel wrote:

> It's funny how people find the most direct of the author's "Political
> Statements" to be satiric.
>
> Again—sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes, when we read a "Far
> Left" screed from Pynchon, we are hearing the author's "authentic" voice.
>
> I don't read any voices in BE successfully articulating countervailing
> arguments. The ones attempting to voice opposing views are all depicted as
> villains in this book.
>
> Again, this is not the 'droid you seek. It's another author that balances
> the extremes of political dialog. Pynchon's an old leftie from way back.
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Fiona Shnapple wrote:
>
> Muckraking of this sort does damage, not good. It keeps people ignorant
> and feeds them the same old mush. It is lazy and stuffed bloated
> pronouncements about some evil thing called Wall Street. Jesus. Where do
> these people live? On the Moon? Occupy a space between your ears. Pay
> attention to the people.
>
> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 9:10 AM, Fiona Shnapple <fionashnapple at gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'fionashnapple at gmail.com');>
> > wrote:
>
>>
>> I am so pleased that Pynchon, though sympathetic to those who now call
>> themselves Left of the NY Times (how Left is that? Ptnchon asks in BE),
>> satirizes them in BE. While the muckraking is important, and we can't
>> expect the NY Times, the Voice, Mother Jones, to do it without, at the same
>> time, turning off anyone with half a brain---who see how the yellow fog
>> journalism, frecked with red, now brownish blood, drips down the drain into
>> the waste counterpunching its shadow boxing partners.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Robin Landseadel <
>> robinlandseadel at comcast.net <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
>> 'robinlandseadel at comcast.net');>> wrote:
>>
>>> "When Republicans make their pilgrimages to Wall Street for money to
>>> help take back the Senate next year, there may be no hotter ticket than a
>>> party at Paul Singer's. The 69-year-old hedge fund billionaire's co-op
>>> apartment at the Beresford, a hulking Italian Renaissance building on
>>> Central Park West whose celebrity residents have included Jerry Seinfeld,
>>> Glenn Close, and Helen Gurley Brown, can draw scads of high-finance
>>> players. The haul for a dinner event has been known to run to $1.4 million,
>>> and Singer himself has no trouble writing a $1 million check to a
>>> super-PAC. He's been described as a "fundraising terrorist" for his
>>> persistence in twisting arms, a skill that has helped drive a major
>>> strategic shift among Big Finance donors, who favored Obama in 2008 but now
>>> overwhelmingly back the GOP."
>>>
>>> http://www.motherjones.com/**politics/2013/07/paul-singer-**
>>> elliott-republican-fundraiser<http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/07/paul-singer-elliott-republican-fundraiser>
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>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?**list=pynchon-l<http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l>
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