Goodbye for now, P-list

[jochen stremmel]

Joseph,

I think that letter you wrote, with passages like "is or has become an
advocate of political and moral passivity and mindless entertainment",
is one of the kind that should have been  slept over at least a night.

I'm sure I'm by far not the only one who'll miss your take on things P and NP.

All the best

Jochen

2013/10/9 Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>:
> On 10/9/13, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>
>> NO conspiracies, because no single conspiracy?  Historically absurd
>> nonsense. I prefer my own interpretation. It isn't that March sees the truth
>> of an  all encompassing global us-them conspiracy. It is that there are
>> quite a few very nasty conspiracies which are simply perfectly acceptable(
>> with sufficient liquidity) to those with the power to address them
>> politically or legally. If you try to document and expose these conspiracies
>> you will be marginalized, jailed, threatened, killed etc. right here in the
>> US of A.  March oversimplifies what she sees a glimpse of, Maxine quite
>> reasonably chumps out after seeing more than anyone else( she is , in fact,
>> as baffled as March)  Reg redirects his efforts, Avi learns a lesson, the
>> web wars are clearly going on but don't look good for the info wants, should
>> or has to be free crowd,  and nobody in any Pynchon novel can put enough of
>> a hole in any of the shady shit to make much difference; but Pynchon never
>> really deals with or fully incarnates the real resistance in the real world.
>> Because of the loss of legal recourse, because media have become little more
>> than  republican democrat propaganda, because of the real arrests and the
>> loss of a meaningful bill of rights, volunteers for resistance in the real
>> world are few and sometimes paranoid. Nevertheless there are quite a few
>> defectors from the red blue wars who by any standards show the power of
>> resistance in far more impressive import than the characters in Pynchon
>> novels, which characters are really all just him.
>
> ... goddamit, just when I may well have tim actually to start keeping
> up w/ all this again ...
>
>> There is nothing in this novel for me and though I enjoy much of what
>> happens here on the P-list I will be pretty scarce from now on.
>>
>>  I will be happy to converse off list but: Please cancel my part in the
>> group read.
>>
>> Much genuine affection and respect for all. You are some smart and
>> interesting people who have stimulated much thought  for me.
>
> ... thnaks for everything, Mr. Tracy, + do please keep an open mind to
> returning sometime (the sooner the better) ...
>
>> Joseph Tracy,  he of the inconsistent punktuation.
>
> ... Dave Monroe, he of the inconsistent ...
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