The BEER Group Read: Who's asking anyway?

[Mark Kohut]

I wrote 'cool" instead of "full of bad shit".....maybe that was better way of expressing. 
 
Did you or Alice write this?:
There is no doubt that Pynchon has got his ear to the pavement and
that the traffic is moving way too fast for a neighborhood, one where
kids play, cross the streets, go to school. The talk is zapping and
yapping along at a new york minute. Notice too, the interrogatives,
the lifting of the phrases that get question marks.
 
Right on-- NYC is dangerous, Maxine protects the kids with her body
and harm by scooter is possible, TRP writes.....
 
nature lit-up is safe and beautiful, Maxine takes it in for 30 seconds...
( a long time actually with kids on way to school and not as entranced.
Love Maxine as entranced here.).....
 
Where else in this novel in the City built by the industrial revolution----
Pittsburgh Steel being transported overland to make the Flatiron building
made the front page of the NY Times back when---do we get the beauty of nature?

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From: Fiona Shnapple <fionashnapple at gmail.com>
To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
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Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:31 AM
Subject: Re: The BEER Group Read: Who's asking anyway?

> Hey, P finds cities, esp NY, not cool. Any different here? Because it is set
> here and Maxine lives here (with kids)? As
> P does with his wife and kid?

I doubt that P finds city life, and especially life in NYC, uncool.

1. NYC is the coolest city on the Planet
2. why write a novel that satirizes what is wrong with the City if you
don't think it has something worth saving, returning to, improving
upon?
3. he lives here still.
4. the eclectic mix, the organic melting mosaic salad bowl richness of
NYC is a positive value in P fiction and prose.
5. his son is quite young when we consider his P's age, and, though
this is not that unusual anymore, at children come later and later to
the career trajectory that continues for women in one direction, men
in another here in NYC and in the country, many of P's neighbors have
kids when a bit younger, even now, but 20 years ago, more so, so
people his age have kids Maxine's age, grandchildren P's son's age.
Most of the the men and women,Maxine's age, including the Jewish men
and women in the area, Maxine's age, contrary to what has been
asserted here, are professionals who earn big bucks, not
philanthropists and artists and teachers, and many are married to
people who work in finance, tech-land, etc. wall street, and to people
who are more like Gatsby then white shoes wasps.  P nails it with
Maxine by marrying her to a commodities broker. This is not only
historically accurate but works in several thematic ways as we will
see later. The street fighters who own the pits are not what many of
you think--not those banksters at GoldMan.

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