death of a salesman Worthington
Curtis Rawling-Endicott
cendicot at gmail.com
Sun Oct 13 13:52:29 CDT 2013
Oh, and yes on paranoia being key to both. If it is a high, it is
certainly not a mindless/cozy one.
On Sun, Oct 13, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Curtis Rawling-Endicott
<cendicot at gmail.com> wrote:
> Good point, and I was kind of short-handing with "stoney". Obviously
> it is so much more than that. THC being a tool, but not primary and
> certainly no replacement for hard work hewing those connections and,
> as you say, a deep knowledge of post-McLuhan impact of media
> especially advertising/propaganda.
>
> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Robin Landseadel
> <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Pynchon and the Firesign Theater share so many traits. You mention stoney
>> humor, that's really not quite right. They share a time and a placeāLos
>> Angeles, transition from the sixties to the seventies. They are both very
>> paranoid. They are both hyperconscious of the Tube and the potential perils
>> of the computer. The scene of "Television Communion" in "Don't Crush That
>> Dwarf, Hand Me The Pliers" really belongs is some Pynchon novel, Vineland
>> probably. While, as with Pynchon's novels, one is led to the impression that
>> the aesthetic results were derived through prolonged application of THC,
>> closer examination displays a shrewd knowledge of forms of Propaganda deemed
>> acceptable by the state and its citizens and the long term effects of that
>> propaganda on those citizens, with both artistic entities somehow managing
>> to make a "telegenic" or "phonogenic" impression anyway:
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv041-dAnqs
>>
>> If you search for the Firesign Theater on youtube, you will find many of
>> their albums have been posted by someone with the nom-de-net of 01 pynchon.
>>
>> I figured the only reason "Nick Danger, Third Eye wasn't name-checked in
>> Inherent Vice is that the reference to that world only slightly askew from
>> Doc Sportello's would be regarded as too obvious.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 12, 2013, at 6:41 PM, Curtis Rawling-Endicott wrote:
>>
>>> Nice, I kind of thought this too but am never sure chicken/egg on
>>> SoCal stoney humor, having come to the Firesign in latter days.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 7:49 AM, Robin Landseadel
>>> <robinlandseadel at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have long assumed that Pynchon's spot-on Parodies of Cal were inspired
>>>> by
>>>> the Firesign Theater's "Jack Poet" ads, guerrilla TV at its finest:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WA2431JIAQQ
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3QaGV0sY0I
>>>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-CHO5YsIzQ
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 12, 2013, at 6:30 AM, Fiona Shnapple wrote:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2013/10/09/death-of-a-salesman/
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, October 12, 2013, Fiona Shnapple wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://home.foni.net/~vhummel/Image-Fiction/chapter_4.1.1.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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