BEER Group Read. "introduced as 'friends'"

[Mark Kohut]

To Morris's remark, I ask, When Pynchon says Dr. K's patients recognized 'another repaired spirit' is he serious?
If they do feel repaired, ???
 
Or can the great Karl Kraus's remark still be true: Psychoanalysis is the disease for which it purports to be the cure.

or, a lesser known remark: My unconscious knows more about the consciousness of the psychologist than his consciousness knows about my unconscious.
 
Apply to Pynchon's oeuvre. Remarks due by Thursday. 
 
 

From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
To: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> 
Cc: John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com>; pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org> 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 5:49 AM
Subject: Re: BEER Group Read. "introduced as 'friends'"



My encapsulation of analysis is an attempt to read P's take on it as a  social phenomenon, in this novel. 
I think, when reading satirists, we do have to say what they might be satirizing. 
From Dr. Hilarious on, P has a perspective on head doctors as a profession. 
 
The help it gives some is not what is being satirized. 
 
I do think Pynchon has a vision that makes some things 'bad' in his fictional world. From steel and crystal thru ice and cold. 
It is the way his fiction works. 
 
 

From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> 
Cc: John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com>; pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org> 
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: BEER Group Read. "introduced as 'friends'"



I really dislike your encapsulation of analysis.  Have you ever tried it?  It is easy to disparage out of ignorance.  And I really dislike when anyone sez, "X" is bad in Pynchon's world. Pynchon is not Ms. Rand for the Left.


On Sunday, October 13, 2013, Mark Kohut wrote:

I'll just subsume it under pynchon's satirization of the profession
>ala above--and now patients as 'friends'....
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>Analysts recapitulate "normal" life---call it crazy--- and make a living at it.
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