BEER Group Read. Bruce Winterslow and Vyrva McElmo
Mark Kohut
markekohut at yahoo.com
Mon Oct 14 07:10:16 CDT 2013
What's in a name again? McElmo is a shale/sandstone condition in the Western United States
and is also a very old pueblo building style:
"Rather than excavating the massive, deep foundation trenches created for earlier great houses, McElmo builders often placed their room walls directly on the natural ground surface (Vivian and Mathews 1965). The use of mortar also seems ...
P suggesting Vyrva is grounded (in ways maxine and others are not?)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com>
To: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 6:55 AM
Subject: Re: BEER Group Read. Bruce Winterslow and Vyrva McElmo
Bleeding Edge seems time-obsessed. We might even get [SPOILER] the
origins of AtD's trespassers, maybe not. I'm also thinking of M&D's
clock conversation, in which they're charged with keeping different
geo-times while occupying the same space. Seems pertinent. Seems like
something P has been trying to do (and also problematising) his whole
career. BE is trying to render a time-space (NY 2001) both ruptured
and continuous.
On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:18 PM, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bruce Slow as Winter? and Vyrva, physically slow, 'a West Coast' thing, "not
> nearly time-obsessed enough".
>
> Then Pynchon jumps back in time---the looseness, the looseness; "he can do it anytime"-- to "before [Maxine and Vyrva] got to know each other"
> when Maxine saw her as a California type who must surely drink herbal tea.
>
> Mediated seeing. Seeing in stereotypes. Even our 'fraud detective' of some supposed acuity.
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