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[Fiona Shnapple]

But she is not, as the schlemiel is not, really chosen. The schlemiel is
one sent away from G-d, and the schlimazel, also a P protagonist, is born
under a bad star.  So, Jewish, chosen, but not elect but a castaway. This
puts them in good company in American fiction. See CLR James on Melville.

http://www.clrjamesinstitute.org/pequod.html

So, a web de bios double consciousness, Jewish in religion or ethnicity, is
doubled by the comic assimilation.

The s, and the s, find a common scapegoat, the mother. And, the Jap, etc,
but the females, though, of course, the Jap, a assimilated ghetto girl is a
commodity, marketable, as and for old and new Jews and consumers of Jewish
stereotype tv, film, etc. so George is "Jewish" as are jerry and jason. The
parents are the old Jewish, in tv land where the actors slide into roles
that the audience has been taught is Jewish, and  in the Jewish community.
Of course, P, is playing the Simpsons card, a bag gag Joak, that
Woody Allen must find an Oedipus wreck.

On Wednesday, October 16, 2013, Robin Landseadel wrote:

> It sez that on an instinctual level, Maxi is one of the "Chosen People".
> The Catholic/Calvinist matrix of Pynchon's points to Elect/Preterite, the
> Jewish sense of these things is sorta different, sorta not. The Jewish
> People know they are "Chosen", chosen for what, how am I supposed to know
>  SERENITY NOW!!!
>
> But being "Chosen" precludes the possibility that Maxi's Preterite [Hint
> Reg's a preterite], so her sexual radar will have to land with a "Suitable
> Mate". One of the things that makes "BE" so perplexing for long-time
> readers of Pynchon is that for once—[catches breath al la Lee Strasberg as
> Hymie Roth in Godfather II, (1974)]—for once, the protagonist's not some
> freakin' schlemiel.
>
> Leaving Maxi to wonder why she she's been with such "winners" if you catch
> my drift. In that regard, more than anything else, she reminds me of Elaine.
>
> On Oct 16, 2013, at 3:19 PM, Mark Kohut wrote:
>
>  But what Maxine does on her grief-reducing cruise is to
>> fuck "the real estate obsessive"........Symbolic I'd say (as well as real
>> enough)
>>
>> "Friendship?" Reg is puzzled..."You didn't even like hiim."
>> "A technical term".......[sez Maxine].
>>
>> Sex happens. What does THIS say about Maxine?
>> About fucking?
>> About friendship?
>>
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