BEER Group Read. Meeting cute Spoiler

[Mark Kohut]

'so deep in the mess that one can't pull oneself out' sez Robin...

which dovetails with this book as about our involvement in a financial system that has created 
where we are NOW.............


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From: Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com>
To: Robin Landseadel <robinlandseadel at comcast.net>; "pynchon-l at waste.org" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
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Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 12:09 PM
Subject: Re: BEER Group Read. Meeting cute Spoiler

yes. Yet with her self-assured and knowledgeable New York self, she, too, is driven by forces---sex---she is not in control of (in some 
novelistic sense)

Temporarily exiled—Maxi manages to get back into her proper place before the novel is over.

It's a situation where a tribe once considered exiled has found a home in the UWS, I would say more so than Israel. The notion expressed in BE that everyone is so deep in the mess that one can't really pull oneself out applies to relationships as well. Maxi is in a different situation than the protagonists of other Pynchon novels—Maxi is notable for her knowledge and self-assurance. Atypical for the author.


>> From: Fiona Shnapple <fionashnapple at gmail.com>
>> To: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 7:23 PM
>> Subject: Re: BEER Group Read. Meeting cute
>> 
>> But she is not, as the schlemiel is not, really chosen. The schlemiel is one
>> sent away from G-d, and the schlimazel, also a P protagonist, is born under
>> a bad star.  So, Jewish, chosen, but not elect but a castaway. This puts
>> them in good company in American fiction. See CLR James on Melville


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