BEER Group Read. Bond, James Bond

[Mark Kohut]

This has just occurred to me. have at it. Yes, Pynchon, with a strong cultural awareness and opinions of James Bond since at least 1984, is saying by namechecking him so often in BLEEDING EDGE that the US, not just one strain of President, has now shown they identify with those who kick third-world people around....not least exemplified in the President they elected (almost) right before the real time start of BLEEDING EDGE. 



On Friday, October 18, 2013 6:56 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:

  And of course there is the Bond reference in the Slow Learner intro: "Modern readers will be,
  at least, put off by an unacceptable level of racist, sexist and proto-Fascist talk throughout
  this story ["Low-lands"]. (...) The best I can say for it now is that, for its time, it is
  probably authentic enough. John Kennedy's role model James Bond was about to make his name by
  kicking third-world people around, another extension of the boy's adventure tales a lot of us
  grew up reading". Not sure at all whether this really is connected to the Bond refs in Bleeding
  Edge, though. The association of Bond with the card table, that we find here on page 14, continues
  on page 146: Of Tallis it is said there that she is "acting too nervous here, she makes the average
  urban paranoid look like James Bond at the baccarat table". So, are the Bond refs perhaps also about
  the zero-years' hype of casino card games? The silly attitude that went along with it?
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXbR5O86zcY   

  Goldeneye


On 15.10.2013 13:55, John Bailey wrote:
> Was thinking about the Bond mentions today, mainly in relation to the
> book's video game components. P does a good job bringing in most of
> the influential games of the era and just before (Quake, Doom, Metal
> Gear Solid) but as far as I recall omits Goldeneye, the James Bond
> game whose engine is generally recognised as a tech leap that allowed
> the kind of game the First Person Yuppie Shooter satirises. In any
> case, the game knowledge of BE seems slightly more than you can get
> from wikipedia-ing the time but about what an attentive parent of a
> teen kid or two in the late 90s would likely pick up.
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Mark Kohut<markekohut at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>> is it Robin always askin' about the James Bond references in Bleeding Edge?
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>> Here is from a review of Willim Boyd's newest authorized book in the franchise:
>> "For a character who, as Simon Winder noted in an insightful 2006 book, “The Man Who Saved Britain,” arrived to uphold British self-esteem just as its vast empire was breaking up, it feels to the reader like an uncomfortably neo-imperialist assignment."
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>> Think TRP thinks the Bond fantasy applies to these United States as well?
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