War Lies From the Ministry of Truth-version 2
Joseph Tracy
brook7 at sover.net
Tue Sep 3 11:41:38 CDT 2013
Robert Fisk and others propose that Iran is the real target. I wondered after the request for Congress's approval if this was all just a distraction from the NSA story. But Obama seems very determined to follow through on his proposed missile strike. There is a huge body of US action against Iran and neocon threats toward Syria as next target in their hit list that supports Fisk's theory.
Isn't it equally unbelievable to think that the US is actually concerned with the human rights of Syrian Rebels or collateral deaths?
If he doesn't want to do this, why propose it and push it? It is possible that it both distracts from NSA and creates an international image of the rule of law under a system of checks and balances and democratic restraints on power. This at a time when we look more and more like a duopolistic empire.
After our own recent history of agent orange, napalm, proxy chemical attacks on Iran and collateral damage wherever the military goes along with our current stockpiles of WMDs of all descriptions, who is able to believe that the US is profoundly opposed on humanitarian grounds. Still, it pushes that image also of a US concerned with human rights despite our pathetic performance in this area. (No convictions for torture, no restraint on land-mines, NDAA, no complaints and regular military donations during Mubarak years, etc.) .
I voted for Obama in 08, but came to reject the idea by 2010 that he or his party had any intention of reforming the extreme corporatist and militarist direction of the US. Everything since then has confirmed that doubt. But he has an interesting technique of winning by losing: Talks bank reform, delivers nothing and allows more bank abuses and illegal foreclosures. Talks NSA spying reform, delivers opposite and oks NDAA secret prison system. Talks health care reform, delivers Romney plan. Talks wind down in Iraq, delivers drones and Afghan surge. Talks resistance to People United decision, delivers nothing. Talks environment, delivers more fracking and no carbon restraint. Talks transparency, delivers whistleblowers on a flaming torch. Talks restraint on 1 percent and tax reform, delivers only words.
It looks to me less and less like a Jason Velveeta style mix of incompetence and high aspiration and more like a very sophisticated CIA style psyop. The net effect, even on some of the smartest writers and most astute journalists is a sense of helplessness in the face of imperial corruption and an all powerful and very violent global big brother. In other words, shut up and work for the galactic imperial dollar or you will be marginalized, investigated, pepper sprayed, jailed or perhaps even find yourself in a Mercedes speeding toward a tree at 100 mph.
These things I am saying are not in the realm of paranoid delusion, but the sum and substance of the News .
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/iran-not-syria-is-the-wests-real-target-8789506.html
On Sep 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, David Morris wrote:
> You have yet to posit motive for the US. Do you think Obama wants to get involved in that mess? If so, why?
>
> On Tuesday, September 3, 2013, Joseph Tracy wrote:
> The idea that the Syrians risked large scale western intervention in a war they are winning seems absurd also. Considering the history of War lies from the ministry of truth there is little reason to think they stopped lying.
> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:00 AM, David Morris wrote:
>
> > http://www.juancole.com/2013/09/president-gassing-divisions.html
> >
> > Some Iranian spokesmen have taken up the same line as Russia, that the rebels gassed themselves, though this conclusion is absurd on the face of it and contradicted by French, British, US and Israeli intelligence, including telephone intercepts that make it clear that the Syrian military deployed the gas.
> >
> > On Monday, September 2, 2013, Joseph Tracy wrote:
> > When I originally questioned the reliability of the core story as a possible false flag operation it was simply mistrust based on too many lies. It appears there is another possible explanation of nerve gas deaths based on investigative reporting and named sources. Worth reading imo.
> >
> > Which Syrian Chemical Attack Account Is More Credible?
> > by Jim Naureckas http://www.commondreams.org/view/2013/09/02-3
> >
> >
>
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