Targets? Goals? Motive? Strategy?

[Joseph Tracy]

My first point is that both statements about motive and the particular reasons for military action presented before a war have frequently been lies. My second is that Obama has also lied frequently about what his administration does and why. The geo-political strategies of the US have not been about human rights or democracy, and this preparation to bomb Syria is no different. 
 
Your attacks on me, increasingly ad hominem, look like a diversion from your own accountability for the now clearly nutty idea that Obama doesn't want to do this. Do you intend to explain that or not?  

I give lists because I appear to live in a culture where everyone seems to forget what happened last week and the fact that what happened before  and the overall pattern of those events is often a good way to understand what is happening today. When the patterns of US foreign policy change, I will be the first to notice and be very happy to see it. 

If you really have a hard time seeing the targets, goals and strategies of US foreign policy maybe you should read some books from those not aligned with the mainstream media and the POV that have generated and justified those policies.
Chris Hedges
Naomi Klein
Chalmers Johnson
David Korten
are some writers I respect


On Sep 4, 2013, at 8:39 AM, David Morris wrote:

> First off, you have yet to provide any motive for Obama.  What does he want, and how do his actions work toward his goals?
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> You have made no arguments.  I don't think you have any.  You have only endless and groundless accusations of ill will and bad faith.
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> David Morris
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> On Tuesday, September 3, 2013, Joseph Tracy wrote:
> Fist off, your notion that Obama doesn't want to do this is the most absurd and laughably wrong idea on the table.
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> What makes a list of war crimes ranting? Anyway, argue with Fisk since you refuse to respond to my arguments with any thing even approximating reason.
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> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:09 PM, David Morris wrote:
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> > If Iran is the real target...
> >
> > ...then please elaborate on THAT!
> >
> > All you have offered for "debate" are ranting lists of past US duplicities, and full-faith surety than no good is afoot.
> > And, like Alice, you are prodigious.
> >
> > A good conspiracy demands a secret plan of cunning and logic.  Boogetyman rattle dances won't suffice.
> >
> > David Morris
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> > Former Iranian President Slams Syria for Gassing own People: Sign of deep Divisions in Tehran
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> > http://www.juancole.com/2013/09/president-gassing-divisions.htm
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> >
> > On Tuesday, September 3, 2013, Joseph Tracy wrote:
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> > Robert Fisk and others propose that Iran is the real target.
> >
> > http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/iran-not-syria-is-the-wests-real-target-8789506.html
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> > On Sep 3, 2013, at 10:25 AM, David Morris wrote:
> > You have yet to posit motive for the US.  Do you think Obama wants to get involved in that mess?  If so, why?
>