Tim & Eric videos

[Kai Frederik Lorentzen]

 > And then, since when has P or his publisher been seriously concerned 
with marketing his *books*, really?<

In case of IV there was serious concern; Pynchon even gave his own voice.


On 05.09.2013 17:30, Tyler Wilson wrote:
> I’ll admit, too, that the trailer does little for me. But then, why 
> should it? Myself, everyone on this list, is going to pick up a copy. 
> And then, since when has P or his publisher been seriously concerned 
> with marketing his *books*, really?
>
> I’ve no idea how quickly this thing was put together, so I may be off 
> here, but: it feels very much like a response to the first ‘graph of 
> Boris Kachka’s 8/25 piece:
>
> “Let’s get a few things straight. First of all, it’s pronounced 
> “Pynch-ON.” Second, the great and bewildering and, yes, very private 
> novelist is not exactly a recluse. In select company, he’s intensely 
> social and charismatic, and, in spite of those famously shaming Bugs 
> Bunny teeth, he was rarely without a girlfriend for the 30 years he 
> spent wandering and couch-surfing before getting married in 1990. 
> Today, he’s a yuppie—self-confessed, if you read his new 
> novel, Bleeding Edge, as a key to the present life of a man whose 
> travels led one critic to reflect: “Salinger hides; Pynchon runs.” Now 
> Pynchon hides in plain sight, on the Upper West Side, with a family 
> and a history of contradictions: a child of the postwar Establishment 
> determined to reject it; a postmodernist master who’s called himself a 
> “classicist”; a workaholic stoner; a polymath who revels in dirty 
> puns; a literary outsider who’s married to a literary agent; a scourge 
> of capitalism who sent his son to private school and lives in a $1.7 
> million prewar classic six.”
>
> http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/thomas-pynchon-bleeding-edge.html
>
>
> And while the trailer may not be about the *book*--and I haven’t had 
> the honor of reading it yet, so can’t say for sure--it is very much 
> about the internet and what passes for “phenomena” on it. The book too 
> is very much about the internet, I gather. And this is very much the 
> kind of indirect, not-obvious, way P works. And it duz create buzz.
>
> Anyway, the more I mull it over, the smarter it seems. Even though my 
> first reaction was “this is embarrassing.” I think the real question 
> is: embarrassing to *who* and *why exactly*? There’s some relevant 
> self-knowledge somewhere down that track..
> --
> T
>
> > Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2013 23:15:04 +1000
> > Subject: Re: Tim & Eric videos
> > From: sundayjb at gmail.com
> > To: markekohut at yahoo.com
> > CC: pynchon-l at waste.org
> >
> > But it's completely antithetical to Bleeding Edge, and Pynchon's
> > writing in general. Not in a dialectical way...
> >
> > The trailer really feels like the work of someone who not only hasn't
> > read this book but hasn't read anything by this author. Normally I'd
> > champion that original position but I can't figure how this thing came
> > about. Is the dude Jackson Pynchon, perhaps? I can honestly say that
> > the trailer has almost nothing to do with the novel...
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 10:15 PM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
> > > O yeah......this way it is REAL! ....so the doers say...
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPad
> > >
> > > On Sep 5, 2013, at 8:00 AM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Someone who knows (some of) this kind of online stuff told me 
> that the Bleeding Edge trailer is in
> > >> An online tradition. Perhaps started by Tim & Eric YouTube and 
> similar: willfully low-production value....point of that is part of 
> the irony....which he describes, as the trailer is, as " irony squared"
> > >> This is hardly worth doing better because.....why?....who has 
> time....it is just for fun anyway.....
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPad