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[David Morris]

Bee-Aau-Tich!

Often hurled by males at males.  Denigration by feminization.

It's A Man's World, unless U R Hillary.

On Sunday, September 22, 2013, alice wellintown wrote:

>
> Actually, like the word bitch is not currently used by Americans to
> connote a female who is, for political purposes denigrated by mysoginistic
> conservatives, but is used by males when they speak with other males, as
> in, jessie to mr white:
>
> yo bitch, I'm takin all the risk, so I need to get paid, like a lot more.
>
> Nazi, as in, the soup nazi, a character on Seinfeld, has several meanings
> here.
>
> Were I a Greek, calling that bitch nazi a nazi bith would have other
> connotations. I guess.
>
> But here, and spcifically, on the yupper west side, where BE is set, nazi
> is in common use, and like lots of words, like  bitch, its meaning is
> determined by its context. Should Germans own the word, prevent Jews in
> ManhaatN from making it a funny word?
>
> All attempts to hem in words, to force specific meanings, fail. This is a
> good thing. The word does not belong to Germany or to Germans; it is free
> to move, free to mean what its users use it to mean. Of course, this
> freedom comes with responsibility. The word fire, the famous case, can
> cause a panic in the disco and so on, but...as I used the phrase to
> describe the chncellor, who was re-elected today, your point, Tom, is
> valid, I'm sorry.
>
>
> On Sunday, September 22, 2013, Thomas Eckhardt wrote:
>
>>  Call her 'Mutti', call her 'bank-owned', call her 'industry-owned',
>> insult her for executing the interests of the German economy to the
>> detriment of the peoples in southern Europe etc., I won't object. In fact,
>> I have been telling these things for years to everyone who cares to listen.
>> One thing Merkel is certainly not, though, is a Nazi. Words have meanings,
>> and 'Nazi' has a rather specific meaning. And 'Nazi bitch'? Really, how low
>> can you go? "Angela. She Wolf of the SS"?
>>
>> Ah, I just realised, Merkel is female. You are not used to a female head
>> of government, are you?
>>
>> (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
>>
>> But I assume in Alice's favour that this is part of having fun with
>> language and polemics and all and has nothing to do with good old jingoism
>> and even better and older misogyny.
>>
>> Back to the news from the election, hoping that Merkel does not get an
>> absolute majority.
>>
>> Thomas
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>> Am 22.09.2013 17:30, schrieb Rich:
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>> I think 'Mutti' fits rather well
>>
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>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 9:07 AM, alice wellintown <alicewellintown at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
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>> As newt Gingrich said of Hilary, she's a bitch.
>>
>>  How did he know she was a witch?
>>
>>  Why, she turned him into a Newt.
>>
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>> On Sunday, September 22, 2013, David Morris wrote:
>>
>>> Agreed.
>>> Bank-owned might be better.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 21, 2013, Thomas Eckhardt wrote:
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>>>> Am 21.09.2013 13:25, schrieb alice wellintown:
>>>>
>>>>> That nazi bitch that Germany will soon re-elect makes the fasciust in
>>>>> Japan look like Ronald Ray-Gun.
>>>>>
>>>> There are a lot of things to be said against Angela Merkel and her
>>>> politics. "Nazi bitch", as much as I like hyperbole and dislike Merkel, is
>>>> not among them.
>>>>
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>>
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