Bleeding Edge - A Rolling Assessment

[David Morris]

Did Alice disown you, Ms. S, here as not being her? U R not Alice?

Your styles of rant, though now more concise, sound alike.

Alice? Please forgive my bitching.  Rant on!

2 of U R 2 much.

On Friday, September 27, 2013, Fiona Shnapple wrote:

> Like, ah, Scooob, the thing is that ah, like, um, the cinema-talk, the
> tv-talk, the texting-talk, whatever, consumed, copied, dreamt about,
> consciously and unconsciously is there, making the reader read dialogue
> paced and structured, modeled after and molded by the mediated discourse,
> taped and delayed, recorded and paused, fast fowarded and fowarded,
> instantly messaged and sent dripping from the conterfeited and confiscated,
> co-opted and corrupted coinages cripped from the medium that has long ago
> exhausted it delivery, muted its horn, blown its wad.
>
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'markekohut at yahoo.com');>
> > wrote:
>
>> I believe that is TRP's point...
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 27, 2013, at 7:33 PM, Fiona Shnapple <fionashnapple at gmail.com<javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'fionashnapple at gmail.com');>>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Wtf, tons of New Yorkers talk this way, they did then and they do now.
>> It's my business to know this.
>>
>> On Friday, September 27, 2013, Markekohut wrote:
>>
>>> And, according to Wikipedia on ' high rising terminal' thanks, Bekah,
>>> some linguists' research says its use often does two other things 1) sets
>>> up a verbal barrier to being interrupted 2) involves the listener in
>>> acknowledging they have listened.
>>>
>>> New York City, yes...
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Sep 27, 2013, at 9:25 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It is predominantly a girl thing. It is a way of asking permission, or
>>> even apologizing for the words one speaks.
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 27, 2013, Bekah wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it's ackshully like, you know, Valley Girl?   (Not that it
>>>> necessarily came from the SF Valley,  though.)     The question mark
>>>> intonation at the end is called the "rising terminal"  and is  requesting a
>>>> nod of positive response like - "..,  you know?"  "..,  you understand?"
>>>>  "Capiche?"  This intonation also appears frequently in Spanish speakers,
>>>>  "Verdad?"
>>>>
>>>> It was around here in the 1980s - movies,  people (usually women),  etc.
>>>>
>>>> Bekah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 27, 2013, at 3:47 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <
>>>> lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Over here this way of talking has become endemic during recent years.
>>>> A secondary Anglizismus (or: Amerikanismus) is what local linguists
>>>> probably would call this. Actually it drives me mad ... it's like, you
>>>> know, not sounding very, um, intelligent? They even dub old movies with
>>>> this way of talking now, which sounds really strange and brings me to the
>>>> the following questions: Since when are people in New York  lifting the
>>>> phrases in case of sentences which actually are simple statements or
>>>> fragments thererof? (You can also hear this way of talking in 'Mad Men', so
>>>> it is, assumed the serial's authenticity, not that new, is it?) Is this way
>>>> of talking also common in other regions of the US? Other anglophone
>>>> countries? And: Is there a gender dimension in it? This seems to be the
>>>> case in 'Bleeding Edge', 'Mad Men' and the contemporary German reality:
>>>> It's mostly women who talk that way. So if it's really around since at
>>>> least 1960 my thesis would be that it originally was kinda compromise
>>>> formula for women entering male job domains: Like still sounding sweet
>>>> while making statements and, you know, claims?
>>>> >
>>>> > If you think that I sound like a sexist grammar fascist you're
>>>> probably right.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 27.09.2013 00:01, alice wellintown wrote:
>>>> >> The talk is zapping and yapping along at a new york minute. Notice
>>>> too, the interrogatives, the lifting of the phrases that get question marks.
>>>> >> New York Runs on Dunkin and Dots ...?
>>>> >> Taylor mali poem <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEBZkWkkdZA>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
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