books every intelligent person should read
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malignd at aol.com
Thu Apr 10 16:37:29 CDT 2014
Agree with puzzle vs. wit, but don't think puzzle to the detriment of passion. The lines in the poem about the suicide of Shade's daughter are certainly not without passion. Brian Boyd (or Alfred Appel) reported people crying during these sections when VN read them in public.
I prefer Lolita. With Pale Fire N let the puzzle making take the lead to the detriment of passion and real wit. Puzzles and wit are not the same, nor are they equals.
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From: David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
To: malignd <malignd at aol.com>
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I prefer Lolita. With Pale Fire N let the puzzle making take the lead to the detriment of passion and real wit. Puzzles and wit are not the same, nor are they equals. With Ada he completely got lost in a puzzle wrapped in beautiful but senseless writing, and most don't even see the puzzle, taking the writing at face value.
I know many disagree with me on this.
David Morros
On Wednesday, April 9, 2014, <malignd at aol.com> wrote:
Why was this good fortune? Both books are wonderful.
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From: Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com>
To: Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>; Charles Albert <cfalbert at gmail.com>
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I second that emotion. I had the good fortune to read Pale Fire _before_
Lolita._
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From: Mark Thibodeau
Sent: Wednesday, April 9, 2014 7:30 AM
To: Charles Albert
Cc: Erik T. Burns; Michael Bailey; P-list
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I've read Pale Fire, and I loved it.
YOPJerky
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Charles Albert <cfalbert at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hasn't anyone here read Pale Fire?
>
> love,
> cfa
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:29 PM, Erik T. Burns <eburns at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> mine would include _J R_ and _The Dog of the South_
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 2:16 AM, Michael Bailey <mikebailey at gmx.us> wrote:
>> > Per Jacob
>> >
>> > ---Infinite Jest needs to be on here. That book made me love writing.---
>> >
>> >
>> > - OK but what are your other nine (-:
>> >
>> > (Mine is already at 10 & although I liked ij, I'm disinclined to bump
>> > any to
>> > make room --- maybe put IJ as Alice's #9 but need to go ask alice....but
>> > ms
>> > malice I think was looking for a bouquet of top tens which is always
>> > fun,
>> > why not add one?)
>> >
>> > - Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
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>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
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