Putin Doubleplusungood

David Morris fqmorris at gmail.com
Thu Apr 17 09:53:52 CDT 2014


http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2014/03/25/in-latest-wiretapping-leak-yulia-tymoshenko-appears-to-say-nuclear-weapons-should-be-used-to-kill-russians/

On Monday night, a leaked recording purporting to be of former Ukrainian
Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko appeared on the video sharing Web site
YouTube.

According to the Moscow
Times<http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/leaked-call-shows-tymoshenko-urging-violence-against-russians-report-says/496802.html>,
the recording, apparently made March 8, details a conversation between
Tymoshenko and Nestor Shufrych from Ukraine's National Security Council,
and has Tymoshenko suggesting that Ukrainians should kill Russians, and, in
particular, Russian President Vladimir Putin. The recording, which may have
been altered, also apparently features Tymoshenko suggesting that the 8
million Russians living in Ukraine should be killed with "nuclear weapons."

The video containing the recording was initially uploaded to a YouTube
account under the name Sergiy
Vechirko<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCiRecDOsKq8SFjG9-Nlr8PQ>,
and has since been widely shared on pro-Kremlin media outlets, with Russia
Today producing its own version with
translation<http://rt.com/news/tymoshenko-calls-destroy-russia-917/>
.

While the Moscow Times reports that Shufrych has denied the recording is
real, a tweet from Tymoshenko appears to suggest she believes at least part
of it is:
In the above tweet, Tymoshenko says that the recording has been edited, and
that she in fact said that the Russians in Ukraine "were Ukrainian." She
also added "Hello FSB :)" in reference to Russia's security agency.
Tymoshenko, widely considered a potential candidate for the Ukrainian
presidential election in May, does not have a reputation for being
anti-Russia, which has struck some as strange, and had enjoyed a working
relationship with Putin in the past.

On Thursday, April 17, 2014, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

>          Glanced at article; saw this statement:
> "Why? History left ethnic Russians ready to accept the fiction that the
> Ukrainian marchers in central Kiev were against them. "
>   Which might reasonably be contrasted with this statement by Tymoshenko
> Former Ukrainian prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko  called on compatriots to
> "take up arms and kill the fucking Russians along with their leader
> [Vladimir Putin]" in a leaked call widely shared online.
>    Is the the author?: a- a full of shit liar with an agenda that does not
> suffer contrasting evidence
>                                  b- making the intelligence fit the plan
>                                  c- perfecting the art of recruiting
> Orwell into an Orwellian enterprise
>                                  d- paid by the CIA
>                                  e-all of the above
> On Apr 15, 2014, at 6:47 AM, alice malice wrote:
>
> > http://www.openlettersmonthly.com/doubleplusungood/
> > -
> > Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>
> -
> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
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