Watching the news w Pynchon yet, able to breathe, luckily.
Joseph Tracy
brook7 at sover.net
Mon Dec 8 15:43:08 CST 2014
Your sentence is flawed. You never provide the subject ("the problem...") which starts the sentence, with an action. There is no verb there. I probably shouldn't talk, being a piss poor punctuator, albeit always alliterative.
On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:36 AM, alice malice wrote:
> But the problem, as Pynchon did not understand when he wrote his Watts
> essay or his short story, "The Secret Integration", or as he sent
> Benny up to Spanish Harlem, had Sphere hang with the Radical Chic
> Fountainheads and Village Hipsters from Suburban Levit Towns, or even
> in his tracings of the New Left fringes in Vineland, though he hints
> at it in his SL Introduction, finally coming to see that race is not a
> problem to be solved, not a political issue or a card to played, but a
> class of capital. AGTD, at last, is Pynchon's only work that plums the
> question honestly and without ignorance or fear.
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 9:17 AM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I agree that the door to police work is open from the wars, and the
>> current wars, the longest wars, have opened revolving doors, that is,
>> soldiers who join police and then return to war and then return to
>> police and corrections. So, the abuse of prisoners in the theaters of
>> war, and in the abuse of citizens in the prisons here and the same
>> with the neighborhoods. Moreover, those that have been to war,
>> especially those that have been in the most dangerous areas and jobs,
>> are revered by the others and have a sway over the group psychology
>> and the culture of the police, so enforcement is emphasized.
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Becky Lindroos <bekker2 at icloud.com> wrote:
>>> This has been true since the vets of Vietnam - I don’t know about Korea or prior. And they bring with them a whole lot of baggage from the mindset they went in with to the PTSD they got while on active duty.
>>>
>>> http://discoverpolicing.org/find_your_career/?fa=military_veterans
>>>
>>> Bek
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Dec 6, 2014, at 7:56 AM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You may be right, Mark. I would only add that in NYC a close
>>>> examination of the legacy of
>>>> Bernard Kerik is worth looking into. The wars, Obama's wars now, are
>>>> revolving doors for soldiers who work in NYC corrections, and on the
>>>> police department. While the so-called progressive mayor disappointed
>>>> most of his supporters with his appointment of Bratton, the recent
>>>> resignations, "retirements" of Black and Latino leadership is even
>>>> more frightening...the recruiting of whites from the suburbs, and the
>>>> placement of rookies in the toughest assignments (for example in the
>>>> Pink) is an other problem, a union, seniority problem that has an
>>>> apartheid impact on housing, education, courts...etc...so, a complex
>>>> web or entrenched power, but the wars, the fucking wars, and the way
>>>> the wars are brought home to poor neighborhoods is the major problem
>>>> here in NYC.
>>>>
>>>> David, though awkwardly, is on to something when he speaks of the
>>>> body. Matthew Pratt Guterl, in the The Guardian, takes on this issue
>>>> recently:
>>>>
>>>> This fear and fascination with the superhuman black male body is a
>>>> longstanding sightline – a “racial script”, as the historian Natalia
>>>> Molina calls it – in which a confused, delusional vision of the
>>>> dangerous black male body is repeatedly invoked as a reason for some
>>>> terrible, violent response. This is the story of Emmett Till and Eric
>>>> Garner, and a thousand stories in between. It is a reminder that the
>>>> story of King Kong is a metaphor for racial fear. It also points, as
>>>> Khalil Gibran Muhammad reminds us, to the myth of the coked-up
>>>> criminal, immunized from pain and impossible to bring down. We should
>>>> be recognizing that each and every one of these dehumanizing fears is
>>>> dangerously – and tragically false – but time and time again, we
>>>> refuse to admit it.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:41 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> we have read Pynchon's essay on the mind of Watts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I Repeat that Radney Balko's The Militarization of the Police
>>>>> traced the start of SWAT teams to the LAPD as an organizational response
>>>>> To those riots.
>>>>>
>>>>> for 40+ years, and esp since 9/11, the police departments all over the United States
>>>>> Have militarized themselves, prepared for " riots" instead of " freedom of assembly", have allowed o'er the top Jacobean-like revengeful anger to build
>>>>> And build until: The Bigfoot cops can choke, gang-up on, beat and shoot at will.
>>>>>
>>>>> TRP did know exactly when the cops turned. Inherent Vice.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad-
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