Nabokov
Perry Noid
coolwithdoc at gmail.com
Mon Dec 15 08:20:12 CST 2014
I'd like the idea of reading M&D for the first time with the folks here so
I'll second that emotion. Nabokov is cool too but it seems like the
sentiment here is that M&D deserves more attention.
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This list mostly Group Reads Pynchon's works. so, I was talking M&D. But
> any Nabokov might be rewarding and new and different and therefore draw in
> new Plisters. ( Group reads are best, in my humble opinion, the more who
> contribute. for some reason, lots don't talk. and, many talk
> "The whole book" in any bit.....which often makes a slow deep crawl a
> difficult thing.)
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Elisabeth Romberg <eromberg at mac.com> wrote:
>
> Totally, and what an insight into that relation! But yeah, a different
> theme….
> Rereading of M&D or Nabokov?
>
>
> 15. des. 2014 kl. 13.12 skrev Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>
> And, of course, there was a different relation to language then. Another
> theme, of course.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 4:41 AM, Elisabeth Romberg <eromberg at mac.com> wrote:
>
> Haha yeah! I know! But by the end of the book you’re like, how do we get
> by not using caps more? M&D certainly made me aware of them.
>
>
> (sorry, forgot to link)
>
> 15. des. 2014 kl. 11.30 skrev Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>:
>
> M & D may have been the hardest Pynchon for me to read----THOSE CAPS!
> --and English is my first language. AND, there are 3 films of Lolita! All
> worthy of being seen, IMHO, even though Kubrick's is the most famous.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 15, 2014, at 4:09 AM, Elisabeth Romberg <eromberg at mac.com> wrote:
>
> Alright then.. I’ve just gone and bought Lolita, Pale Fire and Ada! I’ve
> only seen the film once (Lolita), didn’t sort of know how big Nabokov was
> until I joined this list. Thanks Doc. (I’m reading House of Leaves now,
> also on the recommendation of P-list).
> M&D is lovely. Really really lovely. In the beginning I didn’t know what
> was going on (it was my first TRP-book) and had to start it 7 times:)
> English is not my first language, but I got the hang of it as soon as I
> figured Dixon is a Northerner (Yorkshire-lad), which is where I learned my
> english a long time ago. It might be my favorite book ever. Definitely top
> 5.
>
> Elisabeth
>
>
> 14. des. 2014 kl. 20.25 skrev Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com>:
>
> This topic is getting me excited about Nab all over again. Can't wait to
> finish The Peripheral so I can start on Ada. Super excited! And I still
> haven't completed the Pynchon oeuvre either; missing V, Vineland, and Mason
> & Dixon but I will get to them in time, hopefully. Most interested in M&D
> since it seems to be the least talked about here or anywhere for some
> reason. It makes me curious. Goldarn holiday is forcing me to put reading
> on the back burner though unfortunately.
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Simon Bryquer <sbryquer at nyc.rr.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> CORRECTION - Sebastian Knight was 1st published in 1941
>>
>> sb
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Bryquer" <sbryquer at nyc.rr.com>
>> To: "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com>; "Perry Noid" <
>> coolwithdoc at gmail.com>
>> Cc: "Keith Davis" <kbob42 at gmail.com>; "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 2:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: Nabokov
>>
>>
>>
>> The Real Life of Sebastian Knight was written in 1939 and published in
>>> 1949 -- are you saying V (published in 1963)influenced The Real Life of
>>> Sebastian Knight ?
>>>
>>> Simon Bryquer
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Perry Noid" <coolwithdoc at gmail.com>
>>> Cc: "Keith Davis" <kbob42 at gmail.com>; "pynchon -l" <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 1:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Nabokov
>>>
>>>
>>> I might second but I believe in some bit of time passing (usually)
>>>> between reads...so I say listen to JEREMY IRONS read Lolita to
>>>> ya....PNIN is fun and The Real Life of Sebastian Knight had V.
>>>> influence....(you'll see)......Despair, the chess one is good on the
>>>> paranoia of over patterning....and a consequence....then reread PALE
>>>> FIRE which you would have read and Speak, Memory is another
>>>> essential....
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 12:53 PM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ooh! Well if I can make a suggestion; read Lolita again, then read
>>>>> pale fire
>>>>> twice in a row. In my very green and humble opinion, Nabokov begs to be
>>>>> double-dipped. Last one I read was Speak, Memory but Ada, or Ardour is
>>>>> allegedly the one I should read next according to my friend's father
>>>>> the
>>>>> English professor.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Dec 14, 2014 9:44 AM, "Keith Davis" <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just finished reading "Lolita" for the first time. What a great read!
>>>>>> Don't know why it took so long to get to it, other than to look
>>>>>> around at
>>>>>> the stacks of as yet unread books lying around waiting to be
>>>>>> "deflowered"....!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone was recently recommending "Pale Fire". Any other particular
>>>>>> recommendations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> www.innergroovemusic.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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