Copellia

[David Morris]

And more to PList point, does BE include your possible point?

On Wednesday, January 1, 2014, David Morris wrote:

> Please explicate re Bluebeard. He is a rich murderer of his many wives. He
> has a castle. He gains a vow of obedience from his bride that she breaks.
> Does he deserve his justice? That is my question.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Wednesday, January 1, 2014, Martha Rooster-Singh wrote:
>
> In the great author's latest novel he sends his brave protagonist out to
> Montauk  where, in the middle of protected wildlife sanctuaries, in and
> around, and even under Camp Hero, Gabriel Ice has a castle under
> construction.  As she makes her way down a confidential space that resists
> analysis, her antennas, now stiff with the hairspray that Oedipa never put
> on or took off, are filled with radio traffic, numerals and NATO phonetic
> letters. More Mondaugen's sferics? The ghosts of murdered Africans? A
> poetry he can't comprehend. Not literally. Grover with his ham radio? The
> cries of his robot boy, the Black boy Carl Barrington, constructed from the
> car parts and junk that the society wastes and piles in the junk yard, the
> garbage tossed on the lawns to terrorize the childless Black couple, the
> Jazz man's nightmares and the the desperate schemes of the boys who try to
> save themselves from the bomb plots and fallout shelters their  parents
> have given them. Here, Maxine is a double fallout shelter. One, the Cold
> War shelter, now a tourist attraction, MAD in the new frontier, the other,
> Ice's Castle under construction. Privacy for the billionaire plutocrat
> welcoming the Void.
>
>  page 193
>
> P drops the clue: Bluebeard's Castle. Not a tip of the cap to Kurt
> Vonnegut here, but an Opera.  So the psycho-sexual journey.
>
> The other opera, always connected with this one, has to do with a wooden
> prince, made of flesh, made wood, then flesh again.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wooden_Prince
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:59 PM, John Bailey <sundayjb at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm always interested by how damn often in the human (at least
> western) imagination we imagine our creations will rebel against us
> eventually. Robots, especially - it's as if we're sure they'll try to
> kill us all as soon as they're smart enough to think like us. Really
> neurotic of humans to project that onto something that doesn't even
> exist yet, I reckon.
>
> Has extra connotations for the US, given that it's a creation that did
> (successfully) rebel against its creator.
>
> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 2:55 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I guess the most important aspect of all of this neo-human engineering is
> > that deus ex machina. Even so benign a being as Slothrup might cost you
> your
> > balls.  The Creation often confounds The Creator, but only because of the
> > Creator's willfulness.  This is also the story of Faust:  willful self
> > creation via artificial means.  Both the same cautionary tale.
> >
> > David Morris
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, December 31, 2013, David Morris wrote:
> >>
> >> P knows his Freud, and he knows opera.  He is well versed in automata
> and
> >> Frankenstein, as well as the golem,  He hasn't done clones yet...
> >>
> >> Clone Returns Home (2008)
> >>
> >>
> http://variety.com/2008/film/reviews/the-clone-returns-home-2-1200472620/
> >>
> >> Trailer:
> >> HKAIFF 2009 - 複製人懷鄉曲 The Clone Returns Home - trailer
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, December 31, 2013, John Bailey wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yeah, Coppelia is based on ETA Hoffmann's short story The Sandman,
> >>> which was the major text Freud used to explore his theory of The
> >>> Uncanny (and good stuff on voyeurism and castration). Very influential
> >>> story and essay. Dunno if P read either but I've never been able to
> >>> read V. without seeing them everywhere in the novel. V is the human
> >>> who transforms themselves into an object, and makes real the horror
> >>> implicit in the ballet (it's more obvious in the story, which doesn't
> >>> have a happy ending.)
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 1, 2014 at 9:12 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> > Watching the movie Tetro, a scene from the ballet Copellia, the
> broken
> >>> > doll,
> >>> > is portrayed. I'd never heard anyone mention the ballet in V. In
> light
> >>> > of
> >>> >
>
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