BEER (possible spoilers) -- PROMIS (by way of conclusion)

[Indel Icate]

I agree with you, whole hearted, with all my heart, that "conspiracy
theory" is a designed phrase to wing off absolute truth.  Conspire.
 Theory.  Conspire.  Con.  . Spire.  Conspirit.  Spiral.  Everything is a
fucking theory.  There is no truth.  Only from the heart.

Heart. Earth. Hearth. Fire of Home.

Deep politics, winged reptiles, beer.  Yes.  But then the drunken reptiles
go, "deep politics"?






On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Thomas Eckhardt <
thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:

> The term "conspiracy theory" as it is currently employed is useless for
> discussing matters like the JFK assassination or 9/11 or, for that matter,
> PROMIS because:
>
> a) It allows to lump together people who believe that we are governed by
> shape-shifting reptilians with people who believe that there are some
> legitimate questions about the JFK assassination or 9/11 that need to be
> answered.
>
> b) It does not account for the fact that the official versions of these
> "deep events" (Peter Dale Scott) are often also conspiracy theories -- if
> they are not lone gunman theories, of course.
>
> c) There are conspiracies (see MK-Ultra, Gladio, Operation Condor,
> Iran-Contra).
>
> The terms we need to use instead, I submit, are "deep politics" or
> "parapolitics". Broadly speaking, these terms refer to the secret services
> (or to "rogue agents" like Theodore Shackley or Edwin Wilson) collaborating
> with right wing terrorists (Gladio), or criminals (the mob, drug
> traffickers, weapons smugglers) in order to fund black operations to
> further political ends.
>
>
> By way of example, as I do not want to always pick on the CIA and the NSA:
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/16/german-neo-
> nazi-security-service-scandal
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/18/how-german-
> neo-nazis-evaded-police
>
> What the Guardian reports is only the tip of an iceberg. Meanwhile, files
> have been destroyed or withheld by the security services, potential
> witnesses have mysteriously committed suicide etc. The theory that this was
> exclusively a conspiracy to murder by three neo-nazis, two of whom are now
> dead under -- you already suspected it, didn't you? -- mysterious
> circumstances, which has been accepted and is supported by much of the
> media, is ridiculous on its face.
>
>
> The beginning of deep politics in the modern era, for all intents and
> purposes, was when the US decided to make a deal with Lucky Luciano in
> order to support the invasion of Italy. Pynchon addresses the episode in BE
> in typical light-hearted manner at the bottom of p. 66.
>
> So, beneath the frantic wisecracking in BE lies the echo chamber, or hall
> of mirrors, of deep politics, where not much can ever be proven but almost
> anything seems possible. The mention of PROMIS provides a glimpse into one
> particular area of deep politics. So do the references to Montauk or to
> time-travelling child-assassins (ignore the bit about time-travelling and
> you have Slothrop and the Manchurian Candidate, i. e. MK-Ultra).
>
> Each one of these references needs to be taken seriously and investigated,
> sources and all.
>
> By the way, what happened to the group read?
>
> Thomas
>
> -
> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>
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