"Bin Laden May Not Exist"

alice malice alicewmalice at gmail.com
Sun Jun 22 15:01:36 CDT 2014


As for Bin Laden(s), well....Coll does a great job on the family and
the ghost wars.

On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 11:17 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well remembered and stated.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 22, 2014, at 10:03 AM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think we did a fine job with the political themes.  Neo-Liberalism
>> and Late-Capitalism were explored in depth. The use of Conspiracy was
>> examined. We discussed the family because it's impossible to ignore
>> the fact that Pynchon's politics are played out in his fictional
>> families.  In Bleeding Edge families have nice boys, good kids, given
>> a great education...who turn out to be Ice Monsters...families have
>> daughters they protect from the struggle they wage to keep their
>> neighborhoods, who, because of cultural and technological forces (Tube
>> & Co.) turn, not completely, but turn to power fascism....and so on.
>> We discussed this at some length. Unless I dreamed it.
>>
>>
>> OK, back to the game most Americans don't know is going down.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> Al
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 6:00 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> The interview sounds wrong to me in possibility and from the word ' trendy'
>>> on. It has been disavowed by Ms. Jackson.
>>>
>>> "Late capitalism" in BLEEDING EDGE has been discussed. And the usual
>>> miscellany of other aspects, many of them 'political'. A key cultural (
>>> embodied politics )aspect of BE is what made many plisters dislike it: pop
>>> has totally won. Also pretty clear that money took NYC and in the way
>>> novels write themselves larger than their literalness.....
>>>
>>> And the future awaits anyone on the paths less traveled now on the plist.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Jun 22, 2014, at 3:01 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen <lorentzen at hotmail.de>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>> What “Bleakhaus” couldn’t have known when he or she wrote this is that,
>>>>> while Against the Day (2006) may touch on 9/11 symbolically, his 2013 book
>>>>> Bleeding Edge deals with it literally—it’s part of the book’s plot. <<
>>>
>>> Very true.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately neither reviewers nor plisters seem to be interested in
>>> discussing the novel's construction of 11 Sep ... They discuss Bleeding Edge
>>> as family novel and/or NYC novel. The basic political dimension of the plot
>>> has not been analyzed by anyone so far.
>>>
>>> On 21.06.2014 21:22, Dave Monroe wrote:
>>>
>>> http://touch.dangerousminds.net/all/bin_laden_may_not_exist_did_thomas_pynchon_give_this_9_11_interview
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