Anybody interested in Project Paperclip should probably stay away from the Jacobson book

[Paul Mackin]

Machiavelli taught us long ago that one whose lot it is to be "prince"
can't expect to enjoy the luxury of moral purity and the soul-saving that
goes with it. If M. didn't write something to this effect he should have.






On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:35 AM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why this claim to innocence? Why such rational resistance? The
> irrational, dare I say, Spiritual (as in the Spirit of Capitalism)
> attachment you have to Technic/Science is undeniable. Your more
> spiritual, even mystical attempts to distance yourself is like that of
> a Quaker who sheds all the trappings of the christian cult, but keeps
> his hat on for good measure, out of habit, tradition. How the baby
> Jesus giggles at holy garments and silver cups and scraps of the
> sacred texts. Like your counterparts, Dick C & Co., you have reason,
> but it something romantic, something exceptional and sublime,
> something beyond that keeps you in your seat, the shadows on the
> screen...the bending of the light and sound through the waters of
> mystery.
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 6:25 AM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Thank you for your cooperation. See, out in Boeing, the Pensions, the
> > defined pensions are closing down. The organized will need to fund
> > themselves through a contribution pension. The cooperation of the
> > machinists, and of the engineers is necessary. Could the Nazis launch
> > rockets without them? Could Washington launch drones? It was tougher
> > in many respects, for the Nazis, for Nixon, then for Bush-Obama (Dick
> > C) because in Germany the Engineers were anti-Capital, but we have to
> > remember how the culture, its Romanticism was married to
> > Science/Technic. And this is what has happened in the US, with the
> > baby-boomer romantics married to the computer and the bomb. So, to
> > make yourself an exception, clean of guilt and complicity, is
> > impossible. Indeed, it is counter-cultural claims, and resistance,
> > such Marching and Maximizing of the preterit pseudo-intellectual, with
> > his self-righteousness, his seat at the Right hand of Nature and
> > Humankind, that drives the Machine of State. So technology, yes even
> > the rockets, are not weapons of the Elect, but weapons of mass
> > destruction. Weapons that will blow us all to kingdom come. This is a
> > threat to the planet, to Nature, to all of us here i the Orpheus
> > Theater/Theatre. Why not love the bomb. Worship it like skinless
> > pointy heads beneath the planet of the apes?  Come on....don't you
> > love it madly?
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 2:16 AM, Michael Bailey <mikebailey at gmx.us>
> wrote:
> >> David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Conspiracy beliefs are the natural product of an inquiring mind.
>  Nihilism
> >> is its opposite. Does the world make sense? Or is there no sense?
>  These are
> >> the choices. Conspiracy is a component in this question only because any
> >> sense that can be discerned is not freely given. It is hard to find. It
> >> requires a quest. And such a quest implies an opponent.  Eventually the
> >> questioner realizes the opponent is himself.  We have met the enemy...
> >>
> >> If personal identity means anything at all, that is so not true.
> >>
> >> I didn't make a bajillion dollars off Iraq and move my HQ to Dubai
> >>
> >> I didn't commit election fraud or slaver over the possibilities of
> torture
> >>
> >>
> >> I didn't ....I'm imperfect in a lot of ways but I will not be
> identified as
> >> the perpetrator of those things!
> >>
> >> There are specific people who did them, they need to be exposed and
> opposed
> >> and none of that implies that we are all dick Cheney in the sense that
> all
> >> those Greeks or whatever were Spartacus
> >>
> >> I'm not dick Cheney, i may be a pig but he's much more of a pig than I
> am,
> >> and there are people less piggish than either of us who I want to
> support
> >> and cleave to so that I will become even less like dick Cheney!
> >>
> >> The moral landscape is anisotropic!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> - Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?listpynchon-l
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> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
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