Anybody interested in Project Paperclip should probably stay away from the Jacobson book

[alice malice]

When was ATD published? Just a few years ago. Loaded with new material and
ideas. Who knows what may be up the old man's sleeve. Sure, BE and IV are
not major works, but to say P is finished is unfair. Me, I like it all.
Some more and some less. I guess if he put out a book of poetry or started
playing ukulele in a local pub, I'd pay up, but I get that some see a peak
at GR.  Maybe middle age is no old enough. Maybe when you hear death in the
door hinges daily you will stop in and see if she still remembers you.
On Sunday, March 9, 2014, Mark Kohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Satirizing one's own themes (and much else) is not the same as parodying a
> parody. If that were all he did in BE, though, I'd agree that he was
> running low if not out.
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Mar 9, 2014, at 1:57 PM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','richard.romeo at gmail.com');>>
> wrote:
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> Parodying a parody. To me that sounds like someone out of ideas
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> On Sunday, March 9, 2014, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','markekohut at yahoo.com');>>
> wrote:
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>> I second and third Morris and Davis on this topic re Pynchon. And in
>> BLEEDING EDGE particularly, TRP seems to be taking on paranoia and
>> conspiracy thinking thematically...." "Paranoia's the garlic in life's
>> kitchen." ---TRP satirizes even his own themes...his tightrope art is to
>> balance on the knife edge of overt " message" , in most ways, so to speak.
>> It's Iceland Spar all through.
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 9:56 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Joeseph,
>> Your ambition seems akin to journalism and advocacy.  That's a very cool
>> motive, but I'm just saying that it limts the range of discussion on a work
>> of art. I don't presume your ignorance of the human psyche.  I just don't
>> share your focus, nor your spectrum.  I see a very big net of messages when
>> I read Pynchon, and they are usually fallible ones, purposefully so.
>>  Pynchon advocates a lot, about situations that are as irresolvable as
>> koans. Pynchon loves his Zen.
>> David Morris
>>
>> David:  I understand  the idea that conspiracy thinking can develop from
>> the  human search for explanations.  This has not for many years been new
>> or revelatory thinking to me.  In no way am I of those who think that some
>> revelation of the real "them" is critical to some great global  or personal
>> liberation. But, in general, accurate information  and open conversation
>>  is good for us.
>>
>> I don't think reading about operation paperclip will be old news for
>> everyone . For some, it will force a re-thinking of US history in the WW2
>> era. It challenges the Paul Ryan, the zombie-eyed granny starver from
>> Wisconsin.
>>
>>
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