What happens to a conspiracy revealed?

[rich]

some of those "murders" were warranted. just saying
Look, I get the concern here but I also think that total transparency is
just as dangerous. Not sure the snowdens and assanges really get that.


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:33 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:

> Acceptance from the right-wing is a given. It's harder to take from
> people, politicians and newspapers who present themselves as thoughtful and
> socially progressive.
>
> LK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Monte Davis
> Sent: Mar 10, 2014 1:25 PM
> To: kelber
> Cc: "pynchon-l at waste.org"
> Subject: Re: What happens to a conspiracy revealed?
>
> Casual acceptance, hell -- rousing ovations! Check out Charlie Pierce's
> coverage of star speakers at CPAC over the last few days:  Ollie North,
> Scooter Libby, Bernard Kerik...
>
> http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/crooks-at-cpac-2014-030714
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 12:59 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> What happens when a conspiracy is revealed to the public? Not much. What
>> about anything has changed since Snowden's revelations? The shadowy group
>> journalist Jeremy Scahill was investigating, Joint Strategic Operations
>> Command - responsible for thousands of covert murders across the globe -
>> was revealed and publicly lauded in the midst of Scahill's investigation.
>> What happened? Nothing.
>>
>> Today, another conspiracy is cheerfully reported in the NY Times in the
>> guise of a story about business prowess:
>>
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/10/business/staking-1-billion-that-herbalife-will-fail-then-ackman-lobbying-to-bring-it-down.html?hp&_r=0
>>
>> Which leads to the question: is it still a conspiracy if it's completely
>> out in the open? Isn't the excitement of delving into a conspiracy the
>> stray hope: "once people find out about this ..."
>>
>> Not sure that Pynchon answers this fully in any of his books. Sure, he
>> points to a lot of tips of icebergs and facades: industry as the front for
>> something much more sinister, on an almost metaphysical plane. We
>> understand that his "They," while they may have specific servants, don't
>> exist in any tangible form. Can't un-elect them, can't storm their
>> chateaux. But the problem is, when "They" get too metaphysical, they start
>> blending in with the metaphysical scenery - God, Nature, The Universe, Fate.
>>
>> But what would happen if the really sinister characters were revealed? If
>> there was a complete analysis of Scarsdale Vibe's or Brock Vond's doings on
>> the front page of the paper of record, and it was treated as a celebration
>> of ingenuity, rather than an indictment or a history-changing moment? To
>> me, this is scarier than any "They" in Pynchon's writings, because this is
>> really happening today here in our world. Pynchon's always known about
>> these people. We all have. It's the casual acceptance of them that comes as
>> a shock.
>>
>> Laura
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