What happens to a conspiracy revealed?

[David Morris]

You really sound like a Southern snake handler. With lots of fire! Almost
to get me a raisening a cross! Zee-Haw!

On Wednesday, March 12, 2014, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> Just wrong. The effect of our version of capitalism has not distributed
> but concentrated wealth.  Actually corporate capitalism does not know what
> wealth really is, assuming it is raw power in the form of dollars which
> mostly represents burnable fuel. The fuel is running out, and being turned
> into acidic oceans and carbon saturated atmosphere which will raise sea
> levels and is producing catastrophic climate changes.  And there is no
> magic replacement on the horizon. Rather there is a global infrastructure
> utterly dependent on a limited a resource.This is not wealth but an insane
> and planless disruption of a planetary ecosystem as though planets were
> some kind of automatic teller with an infinite supply of capital goods.
>  Machiavelli was a guide to criminal authoritarianism. Yes it works for a
> few for a while, but our empire is no more benign than any other,
> Capitalism is out of ideas and is a boorish idiot eating everything in
> sight , starting with the weak.  The current market system will crash.
>  There is simply too much imaginary money chasing too little of real value.
>  As far as your orthodoxy on Ukraine, I don't buy it. I am no fan of Putin
> but he has done better in terms of GDP and raised standard of living over
> his time in office than the western states.  I believe the current stand
> off will stand despite Kerry's hypocritical bombast and Crimea will be
> better off in future days than Ukraine.
> On Mar 12, 2014, at 5:29 PM, alice malice wrote:
>
> >
> > This idea usually goes along with the one that connects the MIC to the
> Oil industry than argues that US exploits in the region have only made
> wealthy, the powerful and wealthy, more powerful, the powerful. But the US
> and it allies have also raised the living standards of ordinary people. Not
> by trickle down, but by dominating weaker nations, colonization...so
> on...and  own, whatever....if the US did not, and if the US does not
> continue to, kill, and meddle...push Russia on Ukraine...etc...support
> Israel....it's GDP, and the GDPs of other nations, nations like Canada,
> Australia, Norway, Japan....yes, those nice clean countries that never get
> blood on their safe and comfortable lives... will suffer. Most people
> believe this and that is why they put up with the Machiavellian  US.
> >
> > Somebody has got to be the Empire.
> >
> > On Wednesday, March 12, 2014, Michael Bailey <mikebailey at gmx.us<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Rich wrote "how would you suggest we deal with these people"
> >
> > How about by not making their lives subject to a "great game", not
> deposing their elected governments and not stealing their oil?
> >
> > Then if they unprovoked attack us, well! We shall be ready, and give
> them *such* a thumping! &
> > "live life, every golden minute of it!" - Pynchon-l /
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