Putin's Counter Revolution

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On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:44 AM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:

> I'm just thinking it might help if people thought there might be one there somewhere, not pretty, for god's sake not bare , but just something more than unadulterated pomposity .   
> On Mar 16, 2014, at 12:13 AM, David Morris wrote:
> 
>> Kerry's job requires jive talk, not soul talk.  Soul-bearing isn't/shouldn't be his mainstay.
>> Do you think he a brain problem?
>> 
>> On Saturday, March 15, 2014, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>> I think everybody involved should be spanked and sent to bed without supper.  Also we need a fundraiser to get Kerry a soul/brain transplant. The haircut is good but not that good.
>> On Mar 15, 2014, at 9:59 PM, alice malice wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> It's a complicated problem. There are no good choices here, but Putin needs to be punished. He's got what he wanted, now he has to pay for it.
>>> On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> When Putin spoke of 'chaos' in Kiev and Ukraine as a whole, in his
>>>>> press conference a few days after the Crimean invasion, he must have
>>>>> realised that his foreign audience, as well as the citizens of Kiev
>>>>> and all the people of Ukraine who favoured the revolution, knew there
>>>>> was no chaos.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> No chaos, perhaps, but an unelected government that has come to power
>>>> through a coup d'etat pushed through by right wing extremists in violation
>>>> of various agreements between the government and the protesters. Right wing
>>>> extremists presumably represented only a very small part of the protesters
>>>> against a corrupt but democratically elected government but now constitute
>>>> twenty percent of the government and have been given/taken over
>>>> responsibility for national security/the military.
>>>> 
>>>> It seems that this is what we wanted, supported and continue to support.
>>>> 
>>>> I am no fan of Putin or Yanukovich but every account of the events that is
>>>> critical of Putin's actions needs to address these issues. Otherwise it is
>>>> merely propaganda of the most dangerous sort.
>>>> 
>>>> And of course, there is also the expansion of NATO and the geopolitical
>>>> chessboard, not to mention Chevron and Nuland/Kagan or the interests of the
>>>> EU and Germany which led to the shameful display of our foreign minister
>>>> making deals with a barely disguised Nazi like Oleh Tyahnybok (as for
>>>> shameful displays, see also Tyahnybok/McCain).
>>>> 
>>>> And I will not even mention the decisive issue of who exactly deployed the
>>>> snipers.
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I am concerned, the last time I have seen German and US
>>>> politicians and pundits in such Orwellian harmony was when they decided to
>>>> bomb the sh** out of Serbia. Didn't like it then, don't like it now. The
>>>> stakes are much higher now, though...
>>>> 
>>>> Enter John Kerry for some comic relief:
>>>> 
>>>> "You just don’t invade another country on phony pretext in order to assert
>>>> your interests (...) This is an act of aggression that is completely trumped
>>>> up in terms of its pretext. It's really 19th century behavior in the 21st
>>>> century."
>>>> 
>>>> If political satire had not been dead since Henry Kissinger received the
>>>> Nobel Peace Prize, it certainly would be now.
>>>> 
>>>> The Ides of March, eh?
>>>> 
>>>> Thomas
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