Putin's Counter Revolution

[alice malice]

They will. Of course they will. The spread can't be stopped. Brasil is
deep into it. Who or what wil threaten there interests and security
in the future is hard to say, but we can be sure that it will happen.

The logic is supported by history. Read that chapter from M-D. Loose
fish will be made fast.

 Land, like the islands off Argentina (remember that?), resources,
fishing rights, water...air space....


 Ukraine agreed to give them up and look  what happened there. Even
Putin would have to think twice if all those nukes were still in
Ukraine.

It's expensive. The American Empire will make them pay dearly for it,
but, as you say, logic, ego-politics, will drive the spread of nukes
on a global scale.

The anti-proliferation objective may continue a pace, as weapons are
dismantled, bu the spread of weapons, of nukes, can't be stopped.


On Sun, Mar 16, 2014 at 11:34 AM,  <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
> And by that logic, Venezuela, and most of Latin America, for that matter,
> should nuke up to defend themselves against the US tendency to depose and/or
> murder elected presidents.
>
> http://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/apr/17/usa.venezuela
>
> LK
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Morris
> Sent: Mar 16, 2014 10:45 AM
> To: alice malice
> Cc: "pynchon-l at waste.org"
> Subject: Re: Putin's Counter Revolution
>
> You think if Ukrane had nukes that would have changed the current situation
> in Ukraines favor? So a new government in Kiev would have threatened to
> launch the Big Ones if Russia stepped into Crimea?  That sounds like crazy
> talk. Nukes versus boots on ground? God save us from that equation.
>
> On Sunday, March 16, 2014, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What's was needed, as Mearsheimer argued convincingly only a few years
>> ago, was a greater nuclear deterrent; he was right that Ukraine needed a
>> nuclear arsenal to defend itself against Russia's superior conventional
>> army. Water under the bridge.  But the west has to punish Putin now. Punish
>> his markets and economy. Let him have the mess in Syria. Iran won't turn
>> back now. Move to defend and strengthen NATO, and punish that murdering
>> thug.
>>
>> On Sunday, March 16, 2014, Thomas Eckhardt <thomas.eckhardt at uni-bonn.de>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> With regard to the geopolitical aspects of the crisis, this may be of
>>> interest:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/14/opinion/getting-ukraine-wrong.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&_r=1
>>>
>>> Thomas
>
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