The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014)

Markekohut markekohut at yahoo.com
Sun Mar 23 16:26:08 CDT 2014


Also, overarchingly, maybe a parody of the GRAND HOTEL genre? ...I mean, in the ultimate present of the movie, no one lived there anymore. 

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On Mar 23, 2014, at 4:08 PM, Markekohut <markekohut at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Yes, just an.out-of-reach joke ( meaning not a good joke) about the rich and interacting with. 
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> BTW, if a  Sunday early showing in suburban Nashville is any indication of $$ audience, this looks to be Wes's biggest draw ever, I might guess. 
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> I just saw it, my first full Anderson, I have to confess, and I was reminded of slow-Mo  Marx Brothers ( so to,speak) and Coen Brothers the most.......And, a surreal mannered comic reality not unlike our beloved author ( does that appellation still apply since his last couple books.? )   LOTS of parody contained therein....from  WW2 movies, prison movies, etc...
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> SPOILER: Dunno Wes's intention ( and I bet he believes in Empsonian ambiguity, so to speak) but that 2nd story shoot-out sure struck me as a very fine encapsulation of unthinking escalations of war. ( or the start of WW1. Or whatever) 
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> On Mar 23, 2014, at 2:06 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
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>> No, it's the rarefied work-and-play setting of the hotel that makes the sub-genre. I'd almost be tempted to include The Shining (Kubrick's version anyway) as belonging.
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>> Laura
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>> From: Markekohut 
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>> To: "kelber at mindspring.com" 
>> Cc: "pynchon-l at waste.org" 
>> Subject: Re: The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014) 
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>> Pynchon did! except she was Maxine! 
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>> On Mar 22, 2014, at 1:33 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
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>>> A little sub-genre of its own - poor young man confronted with excessive wealth and loose morals of wealthy guests. I wish Pynchon had tackled it.  Un Perm au Casino Hermann Goering might be the closest he gets. Or is there something in ATD I'm forgetting?
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>>> Laura
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>>> From: Monte Davis 
>>> Sent: Mar 22, 2014 2:24 PM 
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>>> Cc: "pynchon-l at waste.org" 
>>> Subject: Re: The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014) 
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>>> LK>... other young men working in hotels in the early 20th century...
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>>> Kafka's Amerika
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>>> On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 2:04 PM, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>> Very entertaining, but I preferred Moonrise Kingdom. Certainly wouldn't argue with anyone who thinks this is Anderson's best, though.
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>>>> The movie was at its best when in stayed in the hotel. I loved the cheesy 60s decor in the opening scene. The non-hotel scenes, particularly the skiing sequence, were overly cute and generally weaker.
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>>>> When I first saw the trailer, I wondered if the movie was based on a very obscure but great novel called Temptation, by John Pen (a pen name for Janos Szekeley, aka John Toldy), which is a bout a young bellhop at a hotel in Budapest in the 1930s. But clearly, it's not (credits attribute it to Stefan Zweig, who I haven't read. Anyone?).
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>>>> Two other young men working in hotels in the early 20th century: The Confessions of Felix Krull, by Thomas Mann, and Down and Out in Paris and London, by George Orwell. Both very entertaining.
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>>>> And of course there's the Garbo-Barrymore(J and L)- Crawford classic Grand Hotel (1932).
>>>> 
>>>> Laura
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>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >From: Mike Weaver <mike.weaver at zen.co.uk>
>>>> >Sent: Mar 22, 2014 10:42 AM
>>>> >To: Dave Monroe <against.the.dave at gmail.com>
>>>> >Cc: pynchon -l <pynchon-l at waste.org>
>>>> >Subject: Re: The Grand Budapest Hotel (2014)
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>>>> >Thoroughly enjoyable. No great depth, but a gloriously zestful
>>>> >experience. Will probably go see it at the cinema again.
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>>>> >On 22/03/2014 13:19, Dave Monroe wrote:
>>>> >> Comments?
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