NP (but him again): Dear Herr Doctor Professor Heidegger:

[Mark Kohut]

Kai,

Thank you for this long, informative, personal and objective response.
I had hoped I would draw out our plist
Heidegger expert with my post. Your post is worth pondering after
reading again, which I am doing..

Now I can also say I know someone who has "reread" BEING & TIME.

You, as does the NYorker guy (and as one guy from the event he quotes)
do focus on the possibility of
BEING & TIME not being contaminated. "a phenomenology of freedom" is
one nice succinct phrase,
which I think I get.  I was led to wonder about BEING & Time too,
intellectually...amid the blackness....

Take Care,

On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 6:05 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
<lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>
> Yes, it's not beer-hall antisemitism. More like the Spinoza chapter in Carl
> Schmitt's book on the Leviathan from 1938: Jews as agents of modernity who
> are dissolving all traditional social relations outside their own tribe. The
> most problematic thing here is the assumed contradiction between Germanness
> and Jewishness. For Heidegger, the Germans are the people of 'the other
> beginning' (which recapitulates and transforms 'the first beginning' in -
> especially: pre-Socratic - Greek philosophy); as such they are according to
> Heidegger the only people who can find an escape from alienated and
> overtechnologized modernity. As I already explained here some months ago,
> this is not about the matter of fact Germans of Heidegger's time (or some
> fictional 'Aryan' gene pool), yet about the future readers of the poet
> Hölderlin. "One nation under a groove," so to speak.
> The sad thing now is that the Heidegger from the Black Notebooks - despite
> the concrete relations he had with Jewish people before and afterwards -
> sees 'world-Jewry' (das Weltjudentum) as kinda spiritual enemy to the German
> people in their effort to find 'the other beginning'. He diagnoses a
> transition phase inside which 'the monstrous' (das Riesenhafte), globalizing
> the planet by science and capital, is trying to hold 'the other beginning'
> down. And the Weltjudentum - there's no way to deny this - is to Heidegger a
> (perhaps: the) major agent of this process.
> So here we have it: Germans vs. Jews. While this has, as far as I can see,
> no consequences for the thinking of Sein und Zeit (Being and Time) from
> 1927, which I just reread completely, all writings after the Kehre (turn),
> which took place in the early 1930s, must now also be seen in this context.
> So do we have, as some people do suggest, to put Heidegger into the
> poison-cabinet? Not really. In its basic way of thinking Heidegger's
> philosophy - on art, technology and the history of Being - does work without
> ethnic identifications. Actually it's a phenomenology of freedom. The human
> Da-sein ('existence') is what connects people from all nations. Heidegger
> doesn't say 'The German is the shepherd of Being,' he says 'Man (der Mensch)
> is the shepherd of Being' (Letter on Humanism).
> But of course it's a problem for me as a Heidegger reader. Since I'm also a
> reader of Carl Schmitt (and of Ernst Jünger), I know the feelings and
> profound worries related to it. So let me toss in a very personal statement:
> In my - 'other', 'secret', or 'imaginary' - Germany people are welcome no
> matter their religion/ethno-cultural background or color of skin. Language
> skills might be helpful.
> You know, when I got started with philosophy, I was a huge fan of the
> Frankfurt School. Over the years it became obvious to me, that if you took
> all the Schmitt and all the Heidegger out of the Frankfurt School teaching,
> a rather crude brand of Freudomarxism would be all that's left . So I got
> confronted with the decision whether to quit research out of political
> correctness or to dig deeper where it all came from and what exactly
> happened during the 1930s in the sphere of thinking.
>
>
> On 30.04.2014 21:47, Mark Thibodeau wrote:
>>
>> It seems to me the problem with Heidegger's thinking/writing on the
>> Jews isn't that it is "totally unhinged" and "irrational", as some
>> quoted in that article pretend, but that it is rational in a way that
>> they find disturbing. This is a problem for Heidegger's readers more
>> than it will ever be for Heidegger.
>>
>> YOPJ
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>   "Please tell me EXACTLY where we were standing when we 'fell into
>>> Being?'"---
>>> Moses Herzog.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/books/2014/04/is-heidegger-contaminated-by-nazism.html
>>>
>>> Yes, his whole 'philosophy' is contaminated. All of it.
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