NP - Germany Won't Budge on Austerity: Economic Suicide is Character Building

[alice malice]

OK, you explain this to me: what is and a what is not a derivative?
And how can a financial system as complex as the US system dispense
with derivatives?

On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 4:30 PM, alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com> wrote:
> War profiteering? Jeez, when will people stop with this nonsense. War
> is never, ever good for anyhing, certainly not an  economy.
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net> wrote:
>> Highly debatable set of assertions disputed by many economists, particularly those who predicted the 2008 debacle. The " recovery' is once again fueled by questionable derivatives, and war profiteering." In a September 24th article titled “5 US Banks Each Have More Than 40 Trillion Dollars In Exposure To Derivatives, Michael Snyder warns:
>>
>> Trading in derivatives is basically just a form of legalized gambling, and the “too big to fail” banks have transformed Wall Street into the largest casino in the history of the planet. When this derivatives bubble bursts (and as surely as I am writing this it will), the pain that it will cause the global economy will be greater than words can describe.
>> The too-big-to-fail banks have collectively grown 37% larger since 2008. Five banks now account for 42% of all US loans, and six banks control 67% of all banking assets.
>>
>> Besides their reckless derivatives gambling, these monster-sized banks have earned our distrust by being caught in a litany of frauds. In an article in Forbes titled “Big Banks and Derivatives: Why Another Financial Crisis Is Inevitable,” Steve Denning lists rigging municipal bond interest rates, LIBOR price-fixing, foreclosure abuses, money laundering, tax evasion, and misleading clients with worthless securities.This is not real economic strength but the power of an empire facing self destruction. "
>>
>>  The EU was based on flawed presumptions and even Germany is having to face that.
>> On Oct 14, 2014, at 6:03 AM, alice malice wrote:
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>>> Well, one could argue that the US recovery is a jobless one, that is,
>>> a recovery that exposes shrinking labor force, much of it demographic
>>> baby boomer retirement etc.,  though the jury is still out on the
>>> cyclical or structural causes of the shrinking labor force, and, wages
>>> have not budged, but neither has inflation, though the US is not, as
>>> Europe is, in a dis-inflationary and deflationary cycle...so, to make
>>> a long story short, one can argue that the US has a weak recovery, one
>>> that has not done all that much for wage earners, the poor, the
>>> working classes,  but one can not argue that the US has no recovery.
>>> We have a major recovery in place. Europe does not. And, the US has
>>> put the financial crisis behind, has built a new energy policy and
>>> structure, has positioned itself for additional growth. Not so in
>>> Europe.  These are not nationalistic claims. Simple economics. Our
>>> housing crisis is over, our banking crisis is over, our massive QE is
>>> ending, our economy has recovered and, though it faces headwinds from
>>> Europe, Japan, the geo-politials, it will, as the IMF says, pull the
>>> world economy, not China, not the BRICS plus SA.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:45 AM, Otto <ottosell at googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> Can't see that "America has recovered". And your "Union" is as split
>>>> as ours, economically and ethnically.
>>>>
>>>> 2014-10-13 15:07 GMT+02:00 David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>:
>>>>> Clearly this response shows the weakness of the Euro: the "Union" is a
>>>>> farce.
>>>>>
>>>>> But Germany won't be able to stand alone for long.  If Europe is screwed, so
>>>>> is Germany.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Kai Frederik Lorentzen
>>>>> <lorentzen at hotmail.de> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12.10.2014 12:09, alice malice wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Europe is screwed. And Germany is only doing what it needs to do to
>>>>>> get in a better position to recover over the longer term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Amen!
>>>>>>
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