Tube/Consumer Economy Detox

[Qui Zael]

David, okay, I'm only just waking up here, remembering what I wrote
yesterday, and trying to comprehend what you are on about.  Or were last
night.  I see I'm responding to something you wrote 15 hours ago, so
prepositionally you may be like me, on my fourth cup of Joe.  David was
actually my father's name, though he went by his middle name, Joe.

Yes sponteneity is free of method, and free of logic. Why are you even
asking that question.

Rather than balls up and answer your questions, good questions, because
you're always a hardass and I love that, (not in the great Mr. Bailey's
sense, but we trust you gather me), I'm just going to be, ruffian, and
suggest that maybe sponteneity is *choiceless*.  What "agency" are we
"choosing" here?

Everything is "literary".  It's why I am here, on this list.  I've read the
material, but unfortunately I do not know it so well as to integrate, the
debate, on to whom towards to masterbate, as you scholars do.  Some of you
who are pretty good at thinking about Pynchon.

Oh here's something I wanted to say, that little brief diatribe about some
Otto (parts?) giving out Snuggles' position on the grid.  I can see and
understand somebody wanting to protect his privacy, and telling somebody to
fuck off about Sell's selling the info, but for one thing, 2112 is a great
number, and second, what, what do you say here, first, who gives a shit
where the entity who acts like he's living a human life, lives, and second,
I'm pretty sure Snuggles is big enough to handle the situation.  2112.

Apartment....C.   Go knock on his door, see what a tolerance he has.  At
what point will he contact the Others?

Finally, okay, this Kelber person.  I always agree with you, although not,
I should say, regarding the terminal destruction of NYc lie-berries, and
you whined about writing an awesome email and not being able to get it
through W.A.S.T.E., and I came to you, and offered you help....and
nothing.  No response.  So I am dead to you.   You know what, what are you,
about 87 years old?  You're dead to me too.

michael

I have some ridiculous fascination with Ian Asbury.  I dance like him, it's
funny, I jam just exactly like he does.  But, even though I haven't worn a
bandana in years, I've got the hair.  I don't have his amazing mouth.  Ian
is a homely fellow, and I'm highly attractive, but it doesn't matter.  We
*move* the same way.  I thought maybe Kelber and I did too, but fuck it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I8mWG6HlmU





On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 8:39 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:

> Is Sponteneity free of method? Or Its own logic?
>
> Impulses come, and impulses go.  And one must choose amongst them.  It is
> not possible to say "yes" to them all.
>
> Choices are inevitable.  Sponteneity is not choiceless.  It's a question
> of which agency chooses.
>
> David Morris
>
>
> On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Quizael <quizael at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That is awesomely insightful. We are at mercy of our impulses.
>>
>> What makes that so idiotic, is that that is what truth is...responding to
>> our impulses. Sponteneity.  A life lived by method, and logic, and
>> structure forced and interminable, is truly laughable, meaningless, and
>> undesired.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent on the new Sprint Network
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com>
>> Date: 09/20/2014 7:08 AM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>> Subject: Tube/Consumer Economy Detox
>>
>> Walker appreciates the irony. His endless hours as an online superhero
>> left him physically weak, financially destitute, and so socially
>> isolated he could barely hold a face-to-face conversation. There may
>> also have been deeper effects. Studies suggest that heavy online
>> gaming alters brain structures involved in decision making and
>> self-control, much as drug and alcohol use do. Emotional development
>> can be delayed or derailed, leaving the player with a sense of self
>> that is incomplete, fragile, and socially disengaged—more id than
>> superego. Or as Hilarie Cash, reSTART cofounder and an expert in
>> online addiction, tells me, “We end up being controlled by our
>> impulses.”
>>
>> http://theamericanscholar.org/instant-gratification/#.VB1tcxZnU38
>> -
>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>
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