Tube/Consumer Economy Detox

[David Morris]

Actually, I was responding to your statement that implying that spontaneity
was devoid of method or logic, that it is simply a response to impulses.

I said, "Impulses come, and impulses go.  And one must choose amongst
them.  It is not possible to say "yes" to them all."  And thus: "Choices
are inevitable.  Sponteneity is not choiceless."

*Something* or someone is making choices.  And "choices" are not random.
They are made according to *some* method or logic.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Qui Zael <quizael at gmail.com> wrote:

> David, okay, I'm only just waking up here, remembering what I wrote
> yesterday, and trying to comprehend what you are on about.  Or were last
> night.  I see I'm responding to something you wrote 15 hours ago, so
> prepositionally you may be like me, on my fourth cup of Joe.  David was
> actually my father's name, though he went by his middle name, Joe.
>
> Yes sponteneity is free of method, and free of logic. Why are you even
> asking that question.
>
> Rather than balls up and answer your questions, good questions, because
> you're always a hardass and I love that, (not in the great Mr. Bailey's
> sense, but we trust you gather me), I'm just going to be, ruffian, and
> suggest that maybe sponteneity is *choiceless*.  What "agency" are we
> "choosing" here?
>
> Everything is "literary".  It's why I am here, on this list.  I've read
> the material, but unfortunately I do not know it so well as to integrate,
> the debate, on to whom towards to masterbate, as you scholars do.  Some of
> you who are pretty good at thinking about Pynchon.
>
> Oh here's something I wanted to say, that little brief diatribe about some
> Otto (parts?) giving out Snuggles' position on the grid.  I can see and
> understand somebody wanting to protect his privacy, and telling somebody to
> fuck off about Sell's selling the info, but for one thing, 2112 is a great
> number, and second, what, what do you say here, first, who gives a shit
> where the entity who acts like he's living a human life, lives, and second,
> I'm pretty sure Snuggles is big enough to handle the situation.  2112.
>
> Apartment....C.   Go knock on his door, see what a tolerance he has.  At
> what point will he contact the Others?
>
> Finally, okay, this Kelber person.  I always agree with you, although not,
> I should say, regarding the terminal destruction of NYc lie-berries, and
> you whined about writing an awesome email and not being able to get it
> through W.A.S.T.E., and I came to you, and offered you help....and
> nothing.  No response.  So I am dead to you.   You know what, what are you,
> about 87 years old?  You're dead to me too.
>
> michael
>
> I have some ridiculous fascination with Ian Asbury.  I dance like him,
> it's funny, I jam just exactly like he does.  But, even though I haven't
> worn a bandana in years, I've got the hair.  I don't have his amazing
> mouth.  Ian is a homely fellow, and I'm highly attractive, but it doesn't
> matter.  We *move* the same way.  I thought maybe Kelber and I did too,
> but fuck it.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I8mWG6HlmU
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 8:39 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is Sponteneity free of method? Or Its own logic?
>>
>> Impulses come, and impulses go.  And one must choose amongst them.  It is
>> not possible to say "yes" to them all.
>>
>> Choices are inevitable.  Sponteneity is not choiceless.  It's a question
>> of which agency chooses.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 21, 2014, Quizael <quizael at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That is awesomely insightful. We are at mercy of our impulses.
>>>
>>> What makes that so idiotic, is that that is what truth is...responding
>>> to our impulses. Sponteneity.  A life lived by method, and logic, and
>>> structure forced and interminable, is truly laughable, meaningless, and
>>> undesired.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent on the new Sprint Network
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com>
>>> Date: 09/20/2014 7:08 AM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>>> Subject: Tube/Consumer Economy Detox
>>>
>>> Walker appreciates the irony. His endless hours as an online superhero
>>> left him physically weak, financially destitute, and so socially
>>> isolated he could barely hold a face-to-face conversation. There may
>>> also have been deeper effects. Studies suggest that heavy online
>>> gaming alters brain structures involved in decision making and
>>> self-control, much as drug and alcohol use do. Emotional development
>>> can be delayed or derailed, leaving the player with a sense of self
>>> that is incomplete, fragile, and socially disengaged—more id than
>>> superego. Or as Hilarie Cash, reSTART cofounder and an expert in
>>> online addiction, tells me, “We end up being controlled by our
>>> impulses.”
>>>
>>> http://theamericanscholar.org/instant-gratification/#.VB1tcxZnU38
>>> -
>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>>
>>
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