Tube/Consumer Economy Detox

Qui Zael quizael at gmail.com
Mon Sep 22 19:05:10 CDT 2014


The last time I came on here, it was like three months ago, I told you, to
never be shy, to never hesitate.  You can never offend me, and i always
enjoy your notes.  I enjoy everybody's notes on here, when I read them.

It's not possible to offend me.  And it's not possible to offend the others
on here, forgetaboutit.  For example, I guarantee that Kelber is, or did,
laugh, when I told her she's dead to me.  Who cares?  It's all just a
mindless pleasure, isn't it?

I mean how absurd is it that I link The Cult on here?  I'm just mocking the
whole concept of linking.  It is true though that I love beer above all
things, and once the juice hits the head, or hits the stomach, or hits the
palate really, for the literal drinking, the pounding of cheap beer out of
a glass, makes me feel fantastik.  I'm not an opiodic person, they just
make me itch.  It feels good, scratching the itches that are everywhere,
but still, they're not for me.  God bless you and your small room though,
absolutely.  I bow in honor to every opiate you consume.  I will discuss
psychedelics, though, with you, endlessly.

So i'm telling you again, by all means, attack me.  I love it.  Being
misunderstood, to me, is all apart of the fun.

But having said that, Mr. Bailey's prepositional inquiry on getting oneself
off led to something that was actually interesting, beyond the topic of
what how great the latest Dr. Seuss book read by Tom Waits is, the demise
of NYC libraries, the state of Domesk (don't ask), etc., namely, the
dissection of what you are calling meaningful sponteneity and destructive
impulse.

Somebody just gave me some beers, so I'm going to kick back for a bit, but
I will go into Mr. Morris's email which I see is here after yours.  And
maybe say something interesting, rather than just repulsively silly.

I should qualify the "no offense" thing.  There are certain people on this
thing, namely the elders, who it's not possible to offend, ever.  I'm 40.
But I've been there, done that, in all of life, sort of thing.  It is only
Fun for me, to be "offended".  You are young and you're up against the
masters like Bailey and Morris who are brilliant, but fuck them, there has
to be a Revolution:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9px-vKZMLU







On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Forgive me if I'm out of line here but you mentioned more than once you
> had an alcohol problem. You can get pedantic about the word "problem" but
> you know what I mean. Are you saying that it is more meaningful to just
> reach for the bottle than to stop and consider the consequences of such a
> choice?
>
> I'm not trying to attack you, I'm sure you know that but I'm new here and
> most of you don't know me very well; I'm often worried about being
> misunderstood. I have my own opiate demon and I also spend way too much
> time by myself in a small room so I'm not riding high on a horse or trying
> to be morally superior in any way. I just wanna know what you mean and how
> you distinguish btwn meaningful spontaneity and destructive impulse.
> On Sep 21, 2014 6:20 PM, "Quizael" <quizael at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That is awesomely insightful. We are at mercy of our impulses.
>>
>> What makes that so idiotic, is that that is what truth is...responding to
>> our impulses. Sponteneity.  A life lived by method, and logic, and
>> structure forced and interminable, is truly laughable, meaningless, and
>> undesired.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent on the new Sprint Network
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: alice malice <alicewmalice at gmail.com>
>> Date: 09/20/2014 7:08 AM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: pynchon-l at waste.org
>> Subject: Tube/Consumer Economy Detox
>>
>> Walker appreciates the irony. His endless hours as an online superhero
>> left him physically weak, financially destitute, and so socially
>> isolated he could barely hold a face-to-face conversation. There may
>> also have been deeper effects. Studies suggest that heavy online
>> gaming alters brain structures involved in decision making and
>> self-control, much as drug and alcohol use do. Emotional development
>> can be delayed or derailed, leaving the player with a sense of self
>> that is incomplete, fragile, and socially disengaged—more id than
>> superego. Or as Hilarie Cash, reSTART cofounder and an expert in
>> online addiction, tells me, “We end up being controlled by our
>> impulses.”
>>
>> http://theamericanscholar.org/instant-gratification/#.VB1tcxZnU38
>> -
>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
>>
>
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