a Plist thematic trope....

[David Morris]

As I understand it, the common conception of a personal mind is as the
interpreter of mundane (yet the only) reality. But its view is a fiction,
"conditioned," or forged by eons of evolutionary experience. It is
a required evolutionary prerequisite to higher self mind that will
eventually emerge in all. Why this maze of reality is our challenge to
traverse is a bigger question. "Fuck God" is a valid sentiment.

David Morris

On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:

> As the "mind" is not the tool that comprehends or experiences ultimate
> reality, or not what we usually "think of" as mind.
>
>
> Www.innergroovemusic.com
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> On Aug 7, 2015, at 12:12 AM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','fqmorris at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
> Not "this" but not-not "this" is null in math.  No result. No useful
> information.
> It is the Koan a Pynchon plays with.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Thursday, August 6, 2015, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','fqmorris at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Yes. But non-non duality isn't non-duality. THAT is the point of neti
>> neti: "neither yet not neither" isn't exactly "both/and." It is much more
>> inclusive. It is NOT anything you can exclude, even duality.
>>
>> David Morris
>>
>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It sounds like non-duality, neti neti, not this, not this...what "I am"
>>> is not this, and not this...
>>>
>>>
>>> Www.innergroovemusic.com
>>>
>>> On Aug 6, 2015, at 11:07 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A common Eastern way to measure/perceive/describe Reality is to
>>> use double naught adjectives.  The "Naught/notNaught" adjective is the most
>>> slippery kind. It isn't this thing/concept, but it isn't not that
>>> thing/concept. "Is-ness" is only understood as a paradox, and only
>>> experienced by spiritual (real) channels. Every Eastern description
>>> is first negated, but that negation is also negated.  The goal of that
>>> spiritual path is to always question ones's perception of Reality as an
>>> invitation for a higher inherent reality to emerge, almost a paradox
>>> -embracing madness, Ultimate Reality.  A challenging path, to say the least.
>>>
>>> David Morris
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 6, 2015, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _________________________________________________________________________
>>>>
>>>> Alfred Habdank Skarbek Korzybski ([kɔˈʐɨpski]; July 3, 1879 – March 1,
>>>> 1950) was a Polish-American independent scholar
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> He thought that certain uses of the verb "to be", called the "is
>>>> of identity" and the "is of predication", were faulty in structure, e.g., a
>>>> statement such as, "Elizabeth is a fool" (said of a person
>>>> named "Elizabeth" who has done something that we regard as foolish).
>>>> In Korzybski's system, one's assessment of Elizabeth belongs to a
>>>> higher order of abstraction than Elizabeth herself. Korzybski's remedy was
>>>> to deny identity; in this example, to be aware continually that "Elizabeth"
>>>> is not what we call her. We find Elizabeth not in the verbal domain, the
>>>> world of words, but the nonverbal domain (the two, he said, amount to
>>>> different orders of abstraction). This was expressed by Korzybski's most
>>>> famous premise, "the map is not the territory". Note that this premise uses
>>>> the phrase "is not", a form of "to be"; this and many other examples show
>>>> that he did not intend to
>>>> abandon "to be" as such. In fact, he said explicitly[citation
>>>> needed] that there were no structural problems with the verb "to be" when
>>>> used as an auxiliary verb or when used to state existence or location.
>>>> It was even acceptable at times to use the faulty forms of the verb
>>>> "to be," as long as one was aware of their structural limitations.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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