in Which V. is mentioned. as original.

[John Bailey]

Mark's clearly in the pocket of Big Pynch. It's like the IG Farben of
literature.
On 4 Dec 2015 8:31 pm, "Mark Kohut" <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> May I only suggest that, if you do get an English edition of GR, buy it
> new not used. The writer only gets royalties on new book sales and Pynchon
> and his family deserve his royalties for his lifelong committed genius.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 3, 2015, at 8:13 PM, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Again, I suggest GR in English. You can get it used online for $5 plus
> shipping. Just try it and see. It isn't "hard in mother tongue" in basic
> ways. It is hard to synthesize as a whole, as I said earlier. But it is a
> fun ride if you are willing to just let go and experience its pleasures,
> much like the acid trips Pynchon clearly rode in the days of his writing GR.
>
> David Morris
>
> On Thursday, December 3, 2015, <kelber at mindspring.com> wrote:
>
>> M&D!
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: Vitor Repinaldo
>>
>> Sent: Dec 3, 2015 4:57 PM
>>
>> To: David Morris , "pynchon-l at waste.org"
>>
>> Subject: RE: in Which V. is mentioned. as original.
>>
>>
>>
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>> Maybe i'll try in English.The language spoken in Portugal has a lot of
>> differences with the language spoken here. English is easier.  XDBut if
>> Pynchon is already hard in my mother tongue I predict a lot of hard work in
>> another langage.So as the books here aren't cheap I need to think twice
>> which one I'll pick next.The ones that I can find in a more accessible
>> price is Inherent Vice, M&D and AtD. Which is better to read after V.?
>> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 15:27:23 -0600
>> Subject: Re: in Which V. is mentioned. as original.
>> From: fqmorris at gmail.com
>> To: vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com
>>
>> You seem fluent in English.  Translations will never retain all the
>> nuances in a book as poetic as GR.  Maybe you should consider reading it in
>> English.
>> Here it is in Potugese for 26 Euros:
>> http://www.wook.pt/ficha/arco-iris-da-gravidade/a/id/14184775
>>
>> David Morris
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Vitor Repinaldo <
>> vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm from Brazil, so I'd like to read in portuguese. Here Pynchon's books
>> are so expensives and hard to find.My edition of V that i bought these days
>> is from 1988.One day i've found one GR in portuguese, but for R$400 (more
>> than U$100)
>>
>> Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 14:34:27 -0500
>> Subject: Re: in Which V. is mentioned. as original.
>> From: kelber at mindspring.com
>> To: vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com
>> CC: mark.kohut at gmail.com; kbob42 at gmail.com; jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com;
>> richard.romeo at gmail.com; pynchon-l at waste.org
>>
>> You can probably order it online somewhere. Is the language Spanish?
>> Laura
>>
>> Vitor Repinaldo <vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I can´t find GR anywhere in my country (no longer reissued - it's a
>> crime) and I don't know if i coud read in another language. So Vineland or
>> M&D?
>>
>> > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 13:51:11 -0500
>> > Subject: Re: in Which V. is mentioned. as original.
>> > From: mark.kohut at gmail.com
>> > To: vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com
>> > CC: kbob42 at gmail.com; jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com; richard.romeo at gmail.com;
>> pynchon-l at waste.org
>> >
>> > keep going in that direction. (Unless you want the completist-so-far
>> > feeling of all the short stories. )
>> >
>> > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 1:38 PM, Vitor Repinaldo
>> > <vitor_repinaldo at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> > > I'm finishing V and i've already read Lot49, what should i pick next?
>> > >
>> > > ________________________________
>> > > Subject: Re: in Which V. is mentioned. as original.
>> > > From: kbob42 at gmail.com
>> > > Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2015 13:00:29 -0500
>> > > CC: richard.romeo at gmail.com; pynchon-l at waste.org;
>> mark.kohut at gmail.com
>> > > To: jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Vineland!
>> > >
>> > > Www.innergroovemusic.com
>> > >
>> > > On Dec 3, 2015, at 10:12 AM, Mark Thibodeau <jerkyleboeuf at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Vineland Vineland Uber Alles!
>> > >
>> > > On Dec 3, 2015 10:02 AM, "rich" <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > all i would claim is that GR belongs to the creative thrust that
>> began with
>> > > V. and ended with M&D. there are some bits in AtD worthy but the rest
>> imho
>> > > is fairly disposable
>> > >
>> > > rich
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > but no matter what one thinks of some of the later books,
>> > > Gravity's Rainbow HAS TO BE SEEN as, among much newness,
>> > > V. perfected, no?
>> > >
>> > > Gravity's Rainbow is V. squared.
>> > >
>> > > and, didn't Pynchon avoid Parks' basic criticism by writing
>> > > SO MANY DIFFERENT new books....
>> > >
>> > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 9:34 AM, rich <richard.romeo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> w/r/t to Pynchon I think there's some merit to that criticism
>> > >>
>> > >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> self-derivative, repetitive,
>> > >>> in some way inferior to the first bursts of the writer's vision.
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > -
>> > Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
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