And NOWHERE is Pynchon mentioned!

[Mark Kohut]

You can say that again. You can say that again.

And, I'll add, in our complex world, that artist who speaks of it
deeply almost 'must' be a novelist of ideas. (until the realist
strain--a stream of post modernism sez one of those French thinkers
reemerges. Knausgaard? Ferrante?)

On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 8:38 AM, ish mailian <ishmailian at gmail.com> wrote:
> Are there novels, plays, poems...is there a literature without ideas? I
> don't want anything, other than money and beautiful men, thrown at me. But
> when it comes to tales I love yarn threaded through with ideas, allegorical
> figures and microcosms even. Take P's Entropy. Not a bad tale all in all. A
> youthful exploration in an idea story. So many of the so-called set-pieces
> in the novels are stories built on, from, and around ideas. I think it was
> Nabokov who admonished that weak readers love to see their own ideas dressed
> up in clever disguises.  Something like that. Call me weak. Ideas make me
> swoon, like raining men, I just can't get enough of them.
>
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Paul Mackin <mackin.paul at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What's so great about a novel of ideas? Who wants to have a bunch of ideas
>> and ideals thrown at them, in a novel anyway? Do ideas make the world go
>> round? Well, maybe, but I can form my own ideas, at least for the purpose of
>> novel reading. Pynchon is a novelist of historical events, invention and
>> language.
>>
>> Or maybe not.
>>
>> P
>>
>> P
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/20/books/review/whatever-happened-to-the-novel-of-ideas.html?ref=review&_r=1
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>>> Pynchon-l / http://www.waste.org/mail/?list=pynchon-l
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