Re: Climate Negotiators Hail ‘Historic’ Paris Draft Agreement - Bloomberg Business

Wed Dec 16 20:25:22 CST 2015

That's great, but the coal miners need support.  If only their Republican
congressmen thought so.

On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:

> Misc. just learned today serendipitously. Sorta relevant. 5 years ago
> ARCH COAL $350 a share. Today the NYS Exchange just sent them word
> they were going to be delisted. Under 90c a share.
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > GoodCompany has developed a platform for entrepreneurs to engage with
> > public policy, which has resulted in programs such as FastFWD, the
> > public-private public safety accelerator. Now, the model is being
> > scaled — globally.
> >
> > Last year, GoodCompany responded to President Barack Obama’s Climate
> > Data Initiative, a call to arms for the public and private sectors to
> > take on climate change using government data, with Climate Ventures
> > 2.0. CV2, according to GoodCompany, will look and feel a lot like
> > FastFWD. Driving that platform is a four-stage process:
> >
> > Reframe the issue — In this case, position climate change threats as
> > business opportunities.
> > Source the entrepreneurs — CV2 will look to bring in a cohort of 10 to
> 12.
> > Develop — The bootcamp, like FastFWD, will accelerate startups over
> > the course of nine months.
> > Pilot — Entrepreneurs will have access to pilot funding opportunities.
> >
> >
> >
> > The accelerator was supposed to kick off this past summer, but founder
> > Garrett Melby said a ceaseless flow of partnership opportunities with
> > organizations like the Clinton Global Initative, Rockefeller
> > Foundation‘s 100 Resilient Cities, NASAand the National Oceanic and
> > Atmospheric Administration prolonged the launch.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Peter M. Fitzpatrick
> > <petopoet at gmail.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >> Here is a short summary of the history of global warming.
> >>
> >> -Pete
> >>
> >> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/12/16/3731098/food-agriculture-climate-agreement-paris/
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>> >
> http://www.democracynow.org/2015/12/14/a_turning_point_for_the_climate
> >>> >
> >>> > On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> The movement of difference and hope from Paris  is that there are
> now
> >>> >> World-Organized incentives for business and countries to leave
> fossil
> >>> >> fuel
> >>> >> in the ground because investing
> >>> >> In other forms of energy, in sucking c02 from the atmosphere--there
> is
> >>> >> technology to do that---
> >>> >> will accelerate. Hansen mentions this in a Sci Amer article and
> >>> >> elsewhere
> >>> >> which Joseph did not send around)
> >>> >> "It will take the international business community" ---JohnKerry.
> >>> >> (Paraphrase surely)
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I personally, Polyanna that I am, prefer the former skeptic who
> >>> >> foresees
> >>> >> an accelerating cascading effect of change because Paris. Look up
> all
> >>> >> the
> >>> >> Good that has recently been effected.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> few I've ever talked to can talk scale of effect and change.
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> I like toting up all the positive changes the world has made to feel
> >>> >> better for the future. Another massively complex problem. Many must
> not
> >>> >> believe there are ongoing positive changes.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> But we, the whole world, have  to do more than we can NOW AND
> FOREVER
> >>> >> more
> >>> >> ASAP
> >>> >> To save the planet...new book coming with that premise.....and I am
> now
> >>> >> barely reading
> >>> >> An intelligent philosopher on how,the world will change in the near
> >>> >> future
> >>> >> because climate change and what we need to know to do.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Climate change is happening. Real bad shit. Q is Can we save the
> world?
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Dec 16, 2015, at 6:44 AM, Ian Livingston <
> igrlivingston at gmail.com <javascript:;>>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> We are talking about governments here, i.e., massive business
> >>> >> aggregates.
> >>> >> They are not eager to drop immediate profits in the interest of
> >>> >> long-term
> >>> >> survival. Business is not conducted with the next generation in
> mind,
> >>> >> only
> >>> >> the profit margin, ergo governments act in kind. Pulled out The
> Sacred
> >>> >> and
> >>> >> the Profane again the other day and came across a passage that
> struck
> >>> >> me as
> >>> >> particularly applicable in these times, if only we acknowledge that
> our
> >>> >> leaders today honor the gods, not of pre-history, but of recent
> >>> >> history. The
> >>> >> world they know was made by gods such as Pierce Inverarity, not
> those
> >>> >> old
> >>> >> gods of the Nile, of Beth-el, or of Olympus. Profit, i.e., the
> stronger
> >>> >> hand
> >>> >> in trade, is the only environment that concerns them.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net
> <javascript:;>>
> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> > On Dec 12, 2015, at 5:58 PM, Joseph Tracy <brook7 at sover.net
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > If all the pledges are actually fully met it will still lead to a
> >>> >>> > temperature rise between 3 and 4 degrees C global average( land
> >>> >>> > temps will
> >>> >>> > be more extreme) That will produce massive global catastrophes.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >
> http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/oct/10/climate-2c-global-warming-target-fail
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> >  Naomi Klein: We know, from doing the math and adding up the
> targets
> >>> >>> > that the major economies have brought to Paris, that those
> targets
> >>> >>> > lead us
> >>> >>> > to a very dangerous future. They lead us to a future between 3
> and 4
> >>> >>> > degrees
> >>> >>> > Celsius warming. These are figures from the Tyndall Centre and
> Kevin
> >>> >>> > Anderson, who have analyzed those numbers. It does not lead us
> to 2
> >>> >>> > degrees
> >>> >>> > Celsius, which is what many of our governments pledged to do in
> >>> >>> > Copenhagen
> >>> >>> > in 2009.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > KEVIN ANDERSON: The message is that the voluntary submissions
> that
> >>> >>> > have
> >>> >>> > been put forward by all of the countries, when you add all of
> these
> >>> >>> > up, they
> >>> >>> > are far, far above the level of what we call dangerous climate
> >>> >>> > change, that
> >>> >>> > all of our leaders have committed to, to avoid going above this 2
> >>> >>> > degrees C
> >>> >>> > rise, I think about 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit. But actually, when
> you
> >>> >>> > add up
> >>> >>> > all of the commitments that the countries are making in terms of
> >>> >>> > their
> >>> >>> > reductions in emissions, then actually it’s far, far above that,
> >>> >>> > nearer 3 or
> >>> >>> > 4 degrees C temperature rise, which is a huge increase. That’s a
> >>> >>> > global
> >>> >>> > average. Remember, that is a global average. And most of the
> globe
> >>> >>> > is
> >>> >>> > covered in water, so on land that’s an average of, if we carry on
> >>> >>> > like we’re
> >>> >>> > going now, 4, 5, possibly even as high as 6 degrees C temperature
> >>> >>> > rise.
> >>> >>> >
> >>> >>> > James Hansen also agreed with this estimate
> >>> >>> >> On Dec 12, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>>
> >>> >>> >> wrote:
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
> http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-12/climate-envoys-prepare-for-broadest-deal-yet-limiting-pollution
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >>
> >>> >>> >> Sent from my iPad-
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