NP, but a bit of prose poetry...

[Mark Sacha]

If you're interested in the topic, have the time, and have access to a copy
(the latter two are big ifs), Vollmann's unabridged Rising Up and Rising
Down is, I think, the de facto modern text on it. It's split up into two
major sections - the first is analytical/theoretical and the latter is
essentially an unedited compendium of his journalism, which are included as
case studies. Only (haha) the first five volumes are really essential to
the book. Since it's Vollmann we're talking about here, it's really
thorough, although political in ways people won't always agree with and a
little inconsistent in tone and quality. But I was blown away by it.

I got mine from a library since copies run upward of $1000.
https://www.worldcat.org/title/rising-up-and-rising-down/oclc/53820538&referer=brief_results

On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com> wrote:

> Been curious about Vollman for a bit
>
>
> On Thursday, December 17, 2015, Mark Kohut <mark.kohut at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Now you have Vollman to read. A MAJOR subject, as we know.
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > I am nearing the end of another book on violence, not nearly as epic or
>> > beautiful as BM but another perspective, psychological and discrete. I
>> have
>> > read Ballardian landscapes described as "quantal" and I think it is
>> perfect
>> > description.
>> >
>> > I think I am organically crafting some imaginary course on violence in
>> my
>> > head. Started with the Spanish film Tesis by Ameñabar, Baader-Meinhoff
>> by
>> > Delillo (it's a short story in the New Yorker, not necessarily violent
>> but
>> > terrorism and trauma) then Blood Meridian and now High Rise by Ballard.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thursday, December 17, 2015, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> OMG that is so obvious! And the whole time reading it I am constructing
>> >> wild theories as to why the man is hairless. Represents his
>> supernatural
>> >> otherworldliness, a skin suited for a different terrain, Yada yada yada
>> >> can't believe I didn't consider the freaking whale itself.
>> >>
>> >> I'm going to have to buy a copy because there is a lot I want to go
>> back
>> >> to. Got mine from the library
>> >>
>> >> And Mark that home alone bit is hilarious. Spot on.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, David Morris <fqmorris at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm sure it is no accident the Moby Dick is so evoked by BM.  The
>> Judge
>> >>> is the whale.
>> >>>
>> >>> David Morris
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Moby Dick was at the front of my mind throughout. Instead of man
>> hunting
>> >>>> a whale, and everything that represents, man is hunting man. I'm
>> sure u all
>> >>>> have dissected this one like an injun scalp but since I haven't
>> really
>> >>>> discussed it with anyone I'll say this in passing to get it out. I
>> think the
>> >>>> lack of sex scenes was certainly indicative of something because we
>> know sex
>> >>>> occurs in the book. And I would like to know what anyone thinks of
>> the
>> >>>> idiot, his cage and his chain to the judge and why the judge rescues
>> him.
>> >>>> One of the rare appearances of the fairer sex is when he is
>> liberated from
>> >>>> his cage. And just a random thought: when reading the passage where
>> the
>> >>>> judge is walking around with the idiot on the chain my mind seemed
>> to conjur
>> >>>> Dracula and Renfield. Was wondering what you smarter folk took from
>> that
>> >>>> whole interaction.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Yes, page 247.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Perry Noid <coolwithdoc at gmail.com>
>> >>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I just finished reading that for the first time last week. Had read
>> >>>>>> the Road and No Country, was underwhelmed, and was not expecting
>> to be wowed
>> >>>>>> like I was with Blood Meridian. I was expecting it to be another
>> over
>> >>>>>> praised novel that did not meet expectations but it far exceeded
>> mine.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> That *is* Blood Meridian right?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, December 16, 2015, Keith Davis <kbob42 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> ...They rode on. The horses trudged sullenly the alien ground and
>> the
>> >>>>>>> round earth rolled beneath them silently milling the greater void
>> wherein
>> >>>>>>> they were contained. In the neuter austerity of that terrain all
>> phenomena
>> >>>>>>> were bequeathed a strange equality and no one thing nor spider
>> nor stone nor
>> >>>>>>> blade of grass could put forth claim to precedence. The very
>> clarity of
>> >>>>>>> these articles belied their familiarity, for the eye predicates
>> the whole on
>> >>>>>>> some feature or part and here was nothing more luminous than
>> another and
>> >>>>>>> nothing more enshadowed and in the optical democracy of such
>> landscapes all
>> >>>>>>> preference is made whimsical and a man and a rock become endowed
>> with
>> >>>>>>> unguessed kinship.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I'm sure some of you will recognize this...
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>> www.innergroovemusic.com
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --
>> >>>>> www.innergroovemusic.com
>> >>>>>
>> >
>>
>
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